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dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
With the $4.00 pack of the balls, you get the shell to perform the trick. I know that, but my question is: if that's how you do the Multiplying Balls, which is what my local magic shop owner said (well, the owner's assistant), then what's the Sanada for, just vanishes and productions?
Because I want to learn the Multiplying Balls trick, but I need to know exactly what I need to buy this weekend in order to do it, and I don't know if I should buy the balls AND a Sanada, or just the balls. Thanks a lot. Posted: Feb 14, 2007 7:35pm I should probably mention I want to learn Multiplying Balls, but I also will then learn more with sponge balls. So is the Sanada good OVERALL to get? Is it a good prop to have?
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Sanada, Dodge, is a great little device. It DOES have its limitations, though.
I've been doing Multiplying Balls for over 30 years, and find that simple wire ball holders keep things tidy until they are called for. There are many routines in print and on video. Are you really SERIOUS about learning? If you are, then I highly recommend this: Jeff McBride's World Class Manipulation - Volume 1 - DVD: http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=1955 or: TIM WRIGHT'S MULTIPLYING BALLS DVD: http://www.mymagic.com/wright.htm (scroll down to the 2nd DVD) Hope this helps...it sure would have helped ME so many years ago! Doug |
dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
I love Jeff's work, so if he teaches this I will probably buy that DVD. I just love how he teaches.
Thanks a lot.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
You are referring to two different routines here. One is Multiplying Sponge Balls, the other is Multiplying Billiard Balls. Sponge balls are a LOT easier to work with than billiard balls.
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dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
What I want to learn is sponge balls.... What do you mean I was referring to two different routines?
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eddieloughran Special user 942 Posts |
Sponge balls are just that, a set of four balls.
A set of Multiplying Balls has four balls and a shell, which can be made of sponge (but of a different sort) or almost anything else. |
rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
I don't think Bill meant that they are two different routines. Multiplying Billiard Balls are made of one of several different materials, from wood to whatever that stuff Fakini uses to, well, all sorts of stuff.
Multiplying Sponge Balls are made from sponge. You can do more with the Multiplying Sponge Balls. For example, you could do a multiplying routine, then ditch the gimmick and go straight to a sponge routine. Normally I would say this is a bad idea, because your routine would wind up being too long. You want to keep the routines short. But if your Multiplying Balls routine were something like Tim Wright's (which doesn't use audience participation), and then you segue into a sponge ball routine (which usually has a lot of audience participation), the audience might see it as two different things, and you'd not run the risk of boring the pants off them. Then again, the idea of a pants-less audience... (Bad, Rik, BAD.) |
Michael J. Douglas Inner circle WV, USA 1645 Posts |
If you've never done either, I'd say start out with Multiplying Sponge Balls. They're easier to work with initially, easier to handle, and you can get the mechanics down. And, as Rik said, you can use them for other sponge ball tricks. (Although they're much stiffer than "regular" sponge balls, so some of the other effects are limited.)
As for the DVDs, I'd recommend Tim Wright's. While I have McBride's, and they're great, Wright gives you a complete routine to work toward and has footage of Cardini and Neil Foster. Go to the link Doug gave, and watch the demo.
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dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
Thanks, guys, I appreciate all your help. I sent someone after the sponge balls today at our magic shop here in town. I told her to ask for the cheap Multiplying Balls, but I was so tired I forgot to say I wanted sponge balls, so now I have a set of 3 dollar, rock hard, plastic balls with the shell. I'm sitting here fooling with it, but I'll have to go to the store myself this weekend to see what all they have.
Thanks again, guys.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Have a look in Mark Wilson's Course in Magic for some good stuff on the billiards.
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dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
I'm so happy, LOL. I am close to 50 posts. That's half of 100, and once I hit the 50 mark, I'll probably post a lot more often.
It's harder than I thought to get to 50, though...if you're me and have nothing to talk about, that is.
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Eric Leclerc Inner circle Ottawa Ontario 1185 Posts |
I have a question for you, Dodge.......this is off topic....
Why would you chose to include the shot of you performing that Snap Change in your video when you can 100% clearly see the other card in your hand after the change? My point is, out of the dozens of times you filmed that segment...why settle on the one where the trick is exposed dramatically? I am not talking about exposure, because I am not that anal...just generally magically speaking... |
TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I don't think he ever wanted a billiard ball routine.
He just wants a 4-pack of sponge balls and a Sanada gimmick, perhaps. I know that sometimes the sponge balls trick is referred to as "Sponge Multiplying Balls", as opposed to the multiplying billiard ball trick made out of sponge or anything else.
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dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
If your talking about the Black Viper Deck and my color changes on YouTube, where I do it from the side, I actually didn't see it at first because the cards are black, but when I watched it like 20x, I was like...."Wow, I see the card there." lol
My point is, if you watch it one time, you don't catch it...and if you do, it's because you know what to look for. By the way, I DO know how to do that, but I hate it (Snap Change) because there is only a few ways to get away with it. That vid was filmed a while back. I do McBride's version of it now. Does that clear it up for you? Peace, DC P.S. Even if they see the card....wow, I doubt they will try to learn it. If they do, I say good for them. Usually when I do something for people, I'll let something VERY small slip so that they THINK they catch me. Then, all of a sudden, I do it to where they think, "What the **** happened?" lol This was not my intention on that shot, though. It was more of an accident.
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dodgechargerrt30 Regular user Kentucky 158 Posts |
Well the shop didn't have any more of the Multiplying Sponge Balls in stock, so I can't learn it.
I bought some 2 inch sponge balls (super soft) to see how they felt, and, wow, these things kept me occupied for around 3 hours. lol They get so big when you soak them. Maybe when I go back to the shop in March, they will have some in stock. I hope so anyway. PEACE DC
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