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Jim Tighe
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Tony Chapparo, interested to know how your Hisonic system is working out. At that price it does seem a little too good to be true.
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Someone mentioned the JBL Eons in a previous post--those are the industry standard in powered speakers, so go you! If you're performing in large venues and racking up billables, then break the bank a little on those, a Mackie or Behringer board, and some Monster Cable.

Someone mentioned giving up on wireless--notice how every major concert in the country utilizes wireless technology. Don't taint the technology, taint the product. Sennheiser, Shure, and Samson turn out very good wireless solutions. Audiovox, on the other hand, does not. UHF is also much less prone to interference than less costly VHF models.

One last word: I know Leffler and Florida Magic offer PA systems, as do I. But! How about going where the real experts are--a music store like Guitar Center, Mars, or Scam (err, Sam) Ash? Buy magic at a magic shop, but buy audio gear at a music store. Smile
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Andy Wonder
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Is anyone using a Fender Pasport 150 at small parties? I've got the Passport 250. It is great for school shows but too big to use at most of my shows.
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
Dennis Michael
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Hi Any,

I found a Fender Pastport 150 and it is smaller but still big. It works well and it may be just a tad to big for a small party. One of the single battery sound systems may do the trick, such as the Flordia or Anchor as mentioned above.
Dennis Michael
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I own a Hisonic System and for the price and size venue it is designed for it was a great investment. The low cost wireless microphones that come with it work well also. I have two wireless handhelds, two lavalieres and a wireless headset. They work well with the Hisonic and with my Peavey 200 watt system too. I believe it was under $100 when I bought it off ebay.
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Den I think you are right about the Fender 150, a bit too big for my home parties & a bit small for my big school shows. I think what I will do is just get the Passport 10W for the birthday parties. It is 27 Watts RMS. Ken, you used to use one. How did it handle a typical birthday party situation?
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
Tim Zager
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Hello Andy

I used to use a Passport PW10. It was great for voice, but the speaker just couldn't handle music very well. I could not get much volume without distortion.

It was good enough for a BD party, typically done in a living room of a home.

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Michael Messing
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Andy,

The Fender Passport P10W is an amazing little PA. Joe Lefler, owner of Fun-Tastic Entertainment http://www.wearefun.com/ sells them and I've seen him demo the P10W regularly. (He recently made a deal with the company that manufactures the the P10w and is now selling them under the manufacturer's name. Allows him to customize the system easier. He can sell it with a wireless headset only rather than having to sell it with both the headset and a handheld wireless.)

It is amazingly loud but, as pointed out above, it isn't the best system for amplifying music.

As for the P150, I used to own one (as well as a P250.) While the P150 is small, it has plenty of power. It'll cover a school gym with ease. The only thing is that the small speakers aren't able to produce a good bass sound.

That's the same with P250, as well. That's why I sold both and bought a pair of JBL Eon G2 10 powered speakers. I use a lot of music in my shows and really wanted the improved sound.

If you don't use a lot of music, you should really consider the P150. I loved the convenience of using it!

Michael
Andy Wonder
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Thanks Michael, that is clear as mud.
Umm... So what do you guys think would work better? Get a passport P-10W for home birthday parties & Keep my Passport 250 for anything bigger.

or.. sell my Passport 250, get a P150 & use it for everything?

I use music frequently throughout my show because I have a MiniTech for my sound effects etc. Sometimes I do a disco dancing magic party for kids. In that situation I have always used a car stereo that I have mounted in my prop box. I can always use my P250 for home parties if the client has requested disco dancing (not a common situation but the only one where the quality of the music is really important).
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
Michael Messing
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Andy,

Sorry, my post didn't help. Let me try to clarify. First, if you're happy with the P250 for your larger shows, keep it! Just find something for birthday parties.

I don't recommend using the P150 for birthday parties. It has too many parts to set up for a small setting. Although it is comparatively small, you still have the "power tower" and 2 speakers to set up, in addition to adding your MiniTech.

I tried using the P150 for one birthday party and I just wasn't comfortable setting all that up with kids that close to me. I was especially concerned about the speaker cables getting tripped over.

I much prefer an all in one PA system for birthdays. I use a PylePro PWA 3500, which is a battery powered PA system with an 8" woofer and a 2.5" tweeter. It sounds great for what it is. I didn't recommend it because they are no longer being imported by Pyle and they have some aesthetic problems. (The veneer peels very quickly!)

All in one units are convenient because you don't have speaker cables or power cables if they are battery-powered.

My suggestion would be to try to get your hands on a P10W and plug your MiniTech into it to see if you're comfortable with the sound. If not, then look at some of the Anchor units.

If you don't have access to a dealer that sells the Fender P-10w, you could try http://www.musiciansfriend.com . They have a 45-day money-back guarantee on all their equipment. (Obviously, you would need to check their terms for returns from New Zealand.)

I hope this helps some.

Michael

I just saw a great option in another thread. Check out the Carvin StageMate http://www.carvin.com/stagemate/index.html . This unit is bigger than a P10w and doesn't have a built-in wireless but it looks mighty impressive.

Since it has a 10" woofer, it should give you pretty good sound and it has a 10-day money back guarantee.

I wish I had seen this before I bought my PylePro!
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The P10W did not work out for me. I use a ton of music as you know Andy, and the music did not sound good even in a birthday party setting.

I use a anchor monitor speaker that is, I think 55, watts of power. It sounds crisp and clear with the mic and music. I only use this for the birthday parties.

I use th fender 150 for my schools and it is perfect for any size in the schools. That 250 is a BIG piece to carry around.

I would say forget the P10W Andy. Since you and I have been talking this year it seems you are going with the use of a lot of music and I just think you would not be happy with its sound.

Hope this helps,
ken
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I went to Lefler's site to see the Passport 10w and his price is $470.00. Then I went to musiciansfriend.com and their price is $299.00 with free shipping. Am I missing something here, or is there THAT much of a price difference between companies?

Ron Reid
Andy Wonder
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There sure is THAT much of a difference. It is about US$575.00 at my local RockShop. You have got to shop around, (See my post about the MA-101). I have found price differences much greater, especially where I live. I saved over US$500 off the local store price by buying my Fender P-250 over the Internet.
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
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So what's the difference between the MIPRO MA-101 and the Fender P10s?
Michael Messing
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Anthony, the only difference between the Fender and Mipro units is the color! Mipro is the manufacturer and they sell them under their own name, as well as under Fender's name.

One big difference, according to Joe Lefler (who sells both), is that Mipro allows him to purchase the MA-101 with a headset mic, while Fender requires him to purchase the P10-w with a handheld mic and then purchase the matching headset separately. Joe packages the MA-101 with mic stand for the PA, as well.
Andy Wonder
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The Mipro also is avaliable in a full range of receiving frequencies to match the Fender Passport wiresless executive systems. The P-10W is only avaliable in two different frequencies.

I could use the transmitter I got with my Fender P-250 together with a Mipro MA-101, but not with the P10W.
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
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Interesting that there haven't been ANY reviews of the "cheap" systems, even after several folks said they would tell us about them. I guess "you get what you pay for" still manages to hold true. If a cheapo no-name system worked well, you can bet you'd hear about it.

BTW-- anyone use a PA system for street performances? If so, which one?

Joe
Michael Messing
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I just sold my PylePro PA system and will be ordering a Carvin StageMate tomorrow. I will review it as soon as I get it. I have high expectations about this one. Here's the link http://www.carvin.com/stagemate/index.html .
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I have a sound system this is realy great called audio baby it is complete wireless has a headset, cd player and has a accu. It's a little bit expansive it cost around 1350$.
But wounderful

Markus
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Hi All;
I believe I can be of some help here. I have worked for Guitar Center for the better part of 10 years. I currently manage the store in St Louis.
On Sound Systems:

I have always thought the Passport 150 or 250 would be great for a magician. It is a pretty compact system in that the speakers and the power/mixer section clamp together. So it would only add one more trip to the car
We have sold at least 200 of them and I have only seen 2 or 3 come back for repairs. Fender offers a strong warranty, I think it's 2years on speakers and 5 years on electronics. I would say it is a pretty tough little system.

If I had to choose between the 150 or the 250 I would take the 250. I has a couple of neat features like, V.I.P on channle one which allows you to play music in the backround and when you speak it will "duck" the music so you can speak over it. That could be kind of cool and give your show a real pro feel. Also if there is one thing that any one in the music business or any business will tell you you can't ever have too much power!

There is a good bit on the passport systems.
There is also a great little ssytem called the Kustom Profile it sells for $399us it is 100 watts and at that price it comes with a nice luggage type carry case, again only one extra trip.

If anyone has any questions please ask. More on wireless later. I have had training at Shure and Audio Technica, and can answer any questions you might have.

Remember, life is too short to buy cheap audio!
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