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Autumn Morning Star Grammar Hostess Today, I corrected grammar in 1378 Posts 
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Being a woman with hair down to my ~ahem~ can be a challenge at times. And I am certainly glad I do extensive rehearsals, because they can really help you see simple mistakes and grevious miscalculations. Once, I was rehearsing my sub trunk and got a real surprise. In this routine, I lock my assistant in the trunk first, then do the transposition.
The sub trunk I have is a top loader, which works really fast for me: I snap my heels together and vanish into the "next realm". Ok? Well, most of me vanished, except for about a foot and a half of ponytail that insisted on remaining wedged in the tight, nether-realm of the T***D***. Since this time I always braid my hair before attempting this illusion. Anyone else have another tale to tell?
Wonder is very necessary in life. When we're little kids, we're filled with wonder for the world - it's fascinating and miraculous. A lot of people lose that. They become cynical and jaded, especially in modern day society. Magic renews that wonder.
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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts
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With regards to hair... I also have long-ish hair, but I believe not as long as yours. I had an ITR once and levitated something for my mom. She wasn't impressed, saying that I was pullint it up with my hair. Anyway...
I was trying a card transpo once (I call it card to p*ssy, because it goes inside a dissected cat). You know, us girls love bracelets, right? As accessories... well, when I was 'extracting' the card from the dead cat my hand got stuck in its digestive tract (I shoved the card in the half-opened stomach til it reached god-knows where). Anyway, when I finally managed to pull it off, it had bits of 'something something' in it. From then on, I relaized that sometimes, girl stuff could be a hassle. Cyssa |
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I was still recovering from 'card to pussy', when I discovered we were discussing a dead cat. Please tell me the cat wasn't real.
Autumn, it took me far too long to realise that as costume is such an important part of my act - it must always be included in rehearsal. I've been fire-eating for 30 years. For the first 20 years I wore my own hair on stage, but 10 years ago moved into wigs. Wigs, I discovered, are more flammable than hair. Hair spray makes them even more flammable. The first time this happened was the quickest costume change of my career. I heard the 'woosh' as the wig lit up. I pulled it off and tossed it to the stage manager - pulled my own hair loose, shook it and continued with the act. I got stupendous applause but have never been tempted to repeat the act. I now choose wigs more carefully, and rehearse in what I will be performing in. Destiny |
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Autumn Morning Star Grammar Hostess Today, I corrected grammar in 1378 Posts
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Truth IS stranger than fiction!
Cyssa, you win the prize for a bizarre magic tale! (Or should I call it 'Cat-tale' as in 'Card to Pussy [Cat]') Yep, Destiny, I am just getting over that too! HA!) Was this an impromptu effect in Biology class or do you have a preserved cat you bring around with you? Boy, that is like Rocky Raccoon, only bizarre! I can only hope the cat was road kill or met it's fate gently. Destiny, you win the prize for funny! I bet you did get tremendous applause! Who would have ever thought about the extreme flammability of wigs or hairspray? With fire-eating, you really have to think ahead. Did you know a dusty theater can burst into a flash fire if you blow fireballs? The dust acts like Lycopodium powder. Really, any sort of dust is very flammable. I think I read about it here on The Café. Even powdered coffee creamer can be used in place of Lycopodium powder! The main storyline lesson here is: Practice in the costumes, shoes, hairstyles and jewelry that you plan to use when executing the effect. And do a run through in the place where you will be performing, especially if you are using fire. Ok, there are more great stories out there! Let's hear them.
Wonder is very necessary in life. When we're little kids, we're filled with wonder for the world - it's fascinating and miraculous. A lot of people lose that. They become cynical and jaded, especially in modern day society. Magic renews that wonder.
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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts
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Autumn and Destiny: No, the cat was 'hitmaned'. We hired someone to kill it for us by drowning it, then draining the blood from the jugulars. A dead cat costs about 10 USD. Poor kitty.
@ Destiny: Wigs are flammable, I guess because of their synthetic coating. But good thing, that incident did not damage yoru real hair. |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts
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Lucky it didn't kill me - you'd be pulling cards out of me!
I have nothing against the quick and painfree euthanasia of cats - they are feral pests here in Australia and do untold damage to our wildlife. I wouldn't think drowning was a merciful death though. Could you spring for an extra dollar so your hitman could put a bullet in the poor thing? |
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Stevenleeaugust New user 67 Posts
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On 2007-03-04 14:37, Autumn Morning Star wrote: ladies...I know your pain…... |
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Well going to bed - been waiting for the explosion here...
I'm sure it's going to come, but rather than witness it - I'll just have to look at the aftermath. Destiny here kitty, kitty, kitty... where are you? Stop playing games, come on pussy... Has anyone seen my cat? Cyssa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Ms. Morgan Veteran user The Garden State 399 Posts
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Your kidding right?....No, you have to be kidding....
Destiny your waiting for an explosion? Well here it is.... I think it is disgusting, inhumane and morally reprehensible to kill an animal for a magic trick. Then compound the matter with casual conversation about how it was done and how much it cost. Comments have been made to suggest that if the cat was killed quickly or gently it is somehow okay...It is not! What would ever make anyone think that killing a cat and using it's body as a prop for a card trick is a good idea? In almost ever state in the US it is a crime to kill an animal. The means and motive are always looked at as an indicter of the mental health of the person, or persons, involved. In many cases the people go to jail because it has been proven that those who hurt, torture or kill animals are capable of doing the same to humans. The whole thought of it sickens me. And the fact that not one has spoken up about this post before now disappoints me. A lot has been posted in this forum about how woman are treated in magic, where this forum is and the like, and why don't people respect woman in magic? Post about killing cats for cards for tricks....doesn't do much for respect. Frankly I'm embarrassed for the woman of magic. Morgan
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Morgan
You are 100% correct - and I apologise for the jokes. I assumed at first this was some sort of gallows humor and was trying to draw that out. I gather from Autumns post she was also a little bewildered, and hoping it was a joke. I hesitated to be the first to criticise because I didn't want to look like a fool when the joke was revealed.. I'm still hoping it's a joke - I wouldn't have a person left in my audience after such a trick - and I'd never get another booking. (Actually in Australia I wouldn't get to finish the trick - I'd be locked up) I agree with every word you've said Morgan Apologies Destiny. |
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Autumn Morning Star Grammar Hostess Today, I corrected grammar in 1378 Posts
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On 2007-03-05 23:22, Ms. Morgan wrote: Thank you, Morgan. I agree with you completely. Cyssa is a bit of a "trickster" and I honestly thought she was kidding, because her comment was very nonchalant. I expected this thread to explode with complaints and Cyssa to say: "Gotcha!" (Maybe we all expected this, because almost all magicians are well-known for humane treatment of their animals.) I thought Cyssa was probably using one of those life-cast rubber cats that Biology Supply shops sell to Biology classes for dissection. As a person who values all living beings as equal, I cannot accept any form of mistreatment (or death) of an animal for a magic trick. (In my own life, I cannot accept animals harmed for any reason. Hence, I haven't eaten animals or any form of meat in over 30 years. That is just me and my own way.) Cyssa is from the Philippines and animals might not be viewed the same way in her culture. An American in China is often aghast at what is served as food and viewed as entertainment. You honestly would NOT believe it. I actually fainted at a fancy dinner buffet where someone served "raw fish". They were cutting on this poor huge fish, which was still alive. When his gills moved, I saw stars and hit the floor. I love you, Cyssa, but you are going to 'catch heat' for this one. Let's not get too sidetracked from the original topic which is: Crazy things to consider when we are performing, like: Long hair, nails, fake nails, shoes, clothing, wigs, large bosoms, and other items that get stuck in props or are flammable.
Wonder is very necessary in life. When we're little kids, we're filled with wonder for the world - it's fascinating and miraculous. A lot of people lose that. They become cynical and jaded, especially in modern day society. Magic renews that wonder.
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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts
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Ms. Morgan,
I was also upset upon the death of the cat. It wasn't a joke. It was all real. The cat, is VERY RELEVANT to our subject, COmparative Anatomy. We don't kill animals just for fun. However, since I am taking a medicine related course, we have to dissect species, from rodents, to turtles, to chikens to cats. I am really sorry if I offended you. It is inhumane, and science in the Philippines isn't that good yet to just provide a 'virtual cat'. Again, I repeat, the cat isn't killed for a magic trick. It was dissected to see how animals from phylum chordata, class mammalia differ in structure from those of reptilia, amphiba, aves, osteichthyes, and chondrichthyes. Once again, I sincerely apologize if it sounded so inhumane and rude. |
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large bosoms, and other items that get stuck in props or are flammable. Autumn, that's going to be an interesting story Destiny |
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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts
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On 2007-03-06 10:07, plasticdestiny wrote: About large bosoms... don't you ever feel restricted in movement, when you're wearing something tight? eSpeciallly during huge illusions. What do you do about it then? |
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Ms. Morgan Veteran user The Garden State 399 Posts
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Cyssa,
Thank you for the apology and the PM. Although I still do not condone the use of animals for science I understand it is, unfortunately, the norm for teaching comparative anatomy world wide. I do not fault the student for this. I'm pleased to find out you did not have the cat killed for the card trick. Howvever, I still question the use of it as a "prop of opportunity". But that is a matter of poor taste, or bad judgement and as such less reprehensible..although not much. Still, thank you for clearing things up and in the future maybe card in lemon would be a better idea. Now, lets give Autumn her original topic back. Morgan Posted: Mar 6, 2007 2:21pm "About large bosoms... don't you ever feel restricted in movement, when you're wearing something tight? Especially during huge illusions. What do you do about it then?" I wish! When I first started jumping in boxes I was only 16 and didn't have much of the "show girl" build up top. I was given a costume with a rather big set of falsies (sp?) that, as it turns out, were not secured very well. I get into an illusion called Geometric, my hand and feet are bound and the door shut.Then the spikes start going through. One spike is suppose to past over my chest but instead it hits my new found woman hood. The right one is pushed loose and slides down the inside of the costume...I'm all locked up and can't reach it. The magician throws open the door to reveal the girl, still locked up, unhurt and with 2 big C cups!...one on her chest, the other on her hip. Morgan
World Magic Award's "Escape Artist of the Year"
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Autumn Morning Star Grammar Hostess Today, I corrected grammar in 1378 Posts
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Thank you, ladies! I am very impressed the way you dealt with that, then handed back the original topic! You all are the best!
Wow, Morgan! Flying falsies everywhere! (And they say we don't need a woman's forum...Hah!) That must have been really tough, but a creative comedy magician could work that out to be a great comedy routine! It could have been worse, because falsies are very flammable. Thank goodness you weren't using fire. I did an underwater escape for my aunt when I was about fifteen. I jumped into a pool with chains and weights. I was wearing a bikini and the top was a bit loose, so I had padded it with wash cloths. (I can hear the laughter now...) Anyhow, they got all soggy and full of water and when I came up from my underwater escape, climbed the pool ladder, and took my bow; my aunt said, "What are those?" I had pastel-flowered washcloths hanging out of my bikini top. It turned quickly into an unplanned comedy routine. Utilize caution when padding with anything for underwater escapes! I have more stories, but I will write more later... Autumn
Wonder is very necessary in life. When we're little kids, we're filled with wonder for the world - it's fascinating and miraculous. A lot of people lose that. They become cynical and jaded, especially in modern day society. Magic renews that wonder.
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This is an entertaining discussion - I had an assistant that had really long hair and got too close to a flash paper ignition... Not a fun day for her. And I had told her 3 times to back up, that she was too close. She wouldn't budge, and the show had to go on. I still feel bad about that.
Watch the hair when fire is around! About "Big Bosoms" - I won't share it here, but someone remind me someday to tell you how I discovered the importance of a dance belt! |
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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts
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Those experiences are *shakes head* I'm glad you were able to pull through it. Anyway... in close-up, there's no real problem with big bosoms. The only occuring problem is when you're wearing something which 'shows skin' (low-necks, etc. somethign hanging from your front, etc). When you stand up and do your thing on a table, and you're surrounded by, well, men as spectators (this is my dilemma in school, every Friday), it's kind'a embarassing. Although I don't wear low-necks often, it just feels awkward to be bent down in front of boys.
I had a hair disaster once. Have you ever tried filming with a severely bad hair day? OMG... it's such an embarassment. After I saw the DVD,I was like... 'ASWAAANNGGG!" (ugly monster in Filipino). Yeah, I looked like a fat, slob, a miserable witch. Too bad, it can't be edited anymore. |
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Autumn Morning Star Grammar Hostess Today, I corrected grammar in 1378 Posts
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None of us can imagine you looking bad, Cyssa! You are gorgeous! But I know what you mean. Like when I just can't get my hair right (especially when filming a video or taking a promo photo!) or when I am puffy or when I have water-weight gain and the harness makes me feel bulgy...ARG! Those things just can just make a person feel much worse than they actually look. Most other people don't even notice!
Here are TIPS for promo videos and photos: Something to do when you are doing photos or filming is to really limit your salt intake for at least three days. No pizza, processed food or junk! You can eat steamed veggies and lots of fresh water. (I know, yuck, but a video/photo lasts forever. You wanna look good, right?) You actually need to sleep on your back all night. Otherwise, you can make weird creases in your face and neck that will show in the photos if you sleep on your side or stomach. And do not get a hair cut in a new style. They always seem to turn out bad just before any photos or video. I hope these tips help. They really work! Now back to the topic of "Sub Trunk Hair-dos and Other Strange Tales": A few years back, I bought a wonderful Wonder Bra and was happy with the glorious cleavage that comes with it. Ah. I also bought a whole bunch of new shirts to wear that were really flattering. I wore one of my new shirts while doing a coin trick and somehow lost my grip on a quarter. It "squirted" out of my fingers and actually landed down the middle of my cleavage in "never-never land." There was about a half-second there that seemed like an eternity! Then, I over-flourished my hands, smiled broadly and said: "Vanished!" (Albeit, everyone had SEEN where it vanished.) Then I bowed and said: "Thank you! Thank-you-so-much! And for my next trick..." I left the quarter where it was warm and snug and went on. No sense in humiliating myself further. I made the mistake a funny part of the trick, saved face (somewhat), and really got some great inadvertent laughter. Sometimes you just have to go with the flow!
Wonder is very necessary in life. When we're little kids, we're filled with wonder for the world - it's fascinating and miraculous. A lot of people lose that. They become cynical and jaded, especially in modern day society. Magic renews that wonder.
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Sekhmet New user Nacogdoches, TX 54 Posts
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I feel lucky.
I have teeny tiny boobs. They're big enough to notice, but not nearly big enough to get in anyone's way, including my own. lol I'm reminded of that Jessica Simpson video where she's trying to swing a golf club and tucking her boobs in. I also don't have the hair problem anymore. It used to be down to my waist, but I cut it about a year ago and it's been around my neck ever since. About the animal thing... Never under any circumstances would I use a corpse for a magic trick. No thank you.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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