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Abacus![]() New user Australia 44 Posts ![]() |
Not to sure where to post this but...
Where did the Tenkai palm get it's name? Just wondering about the history? Also, what's the deal with the Gooshman pinch and the Tenkai Pinch? They are the same move (I think) so why the two names?? Just looking for a bit of a history lesson.. Ben |
Burt Yaroch![]() Inner circle Dallas,TX 1097 Posts ![]() |
The name for the Tenkai palm was taken directly from it's creator, Japanese magician Bob Tenkai, as was the Tenkai Pinch. Albert Goshman popularized the move (the pinch not the palm) and his name just kinda stuck there, despite his constant reassurances that he learned Tenkai's move from Ed Balducci.
The modern version of the Goshman pinch (which can be seen on Jay Sankey's videos) differs from the Tenkai version in the way the hand moves to enter the pinch. Jay credits Scotty York for this contemporary handling of the "Goshman Pinch". Clear as mud, eh? Good golly I'm spewing magical lore. What has happened to me? (I'm sure Andi Gladwin will be along momentarily to correct any oversight I may have made, the little punk.) :mad: :blackeye: :bwink:
Yakworld.
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Burt Yaroch![]() Inner circle Dallas,TX 1097 Posts ![]() |
By the way, I was just joking about the Tenkai's first name being Bob. It's not Bob.
It's Dave. ![]()
Yakworld.
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Abacus![]() New user Australia 44 Posts ![]() |
Hey, thanks!!!!
Learn something new... Ben |
Brian Proctor![]() Inner circle Somewhere 2322 Posts ![]() |
Honestly, it comes from tenkai-land. A happy place where all things are between thumb and palm.
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Abacus![]() New user Australia 44 Posts ![]() |
While we're on it, any tips for the Tenkai Card Palm. Position, but mostly the angles???
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Dan Watkins![]() Inner circle PA 3028 Posts ![]() |
For those who care to know, Tenkai's first name is Ishida.
As for Tenkai palming of cards or jumbo coins, the only good angles are when people are in front of you and the back of the hand always faces toward the spectators. If you get spectators off to your sides your angles are shot. |
Burt Yaroch![]() Inner circle Dallas,TX 1097 Posts ![]() |
It's a little known fact that Ishida is actually the Japanese derivative of Bob.
It's true. ![]()
Yakworld.
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Jeb Sherrill![]() Inner circle Elsewhere 1161 Posts ![]() |
Yak,
This is true actually. In Japanese, Robert is Ishidaranoisanda. Ishida, of course being Bob. Sable ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
I don't believe in reincarnation, but I may have in another life.
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Burt Yaroch![]() Inner circle Dallas,TX 1097 Posts ![]() |
I knew that.
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Yakworld.
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Scott F. Guinn![]() Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts ![]() |
Reminds me of the old story of Ten Ichi, and his student, Eleven Ichi...
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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Scott O.![]() Inner circle Midwest 1143 Posts ![]() |
And then there's that great Chinese magician from Peking. His name was Tom . . . also known as --(yes)-- Peking Tom.
Do not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time you will reap a harvest, if you do not give up. Galatians 6:9
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Geoff Williams![]() Special user St. Pete Beach, FL 617 Posts ![]() |
Don't forget "Fu Ling Yu."
Sorry.
"Saját légpárnás tele van angolnák."
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AndiGladwin![]() V.I.P. UK 587 Posts ![]() |
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On 2002-02-01 11:32, yakandjak wrote: Sorry I'm jumping in late here! Everything seems present and correct ![]() One thing though, Tenkai's full name was not Ishida Tenkai, but actually Tenkai Ishida. A subtle, but important difference! I'm also pretty sure that the palm was originally published in the card section of John Northern Hilliard's Greater Magic. --Andi
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Steve Friedberg![]() Inner circle 1401 Posts ![]() |
hmmmm...what's the Japanese derivation of "Yakandjak?" It can't be "Bob..." maybe "Bobo?"
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