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AndrewG
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I would consider my self a competent card worker. I have just started doing more public performances and want to add variety to my routine. In other words add some non-card effects. I have no experience with other types of sleight of hand though.

What do you think would be the best field to explore next in terms of ease as I will be a beginner in this new field? I'm considering sponge balls, coins (prepared to use gimmicked) rings and ropes.

Do you think Bill Tarr's first book on sleight of hand "Now You See It, Now You Don't" would be adequate for my purposes? Cards will remain my main interest

Thanks for your thoughts.

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I think you're on the right track at looking at coins, sponge balls, and ropes. Coins and cards can be worked into routines together, so that may be the next logical step. (It was in my case.) And some of the gimmicked coin routines are fairly easy to master. I can recommend David Roths ultimate coin magic collection Vol 1, which covers the use of gaff and other specialty coins.

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I think that if you took a poll, most who started in cards went to coins next, with exception. Try the classic text "Modern Coin Magic," by Bobo for books. If you're into the DVD thing, David Roth or Michael Ammar's stuff.

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Brett
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Michael Ammars complete intro to coin magic is great. If you're familiar with Ammars Complete Cups and Balls video, you'll find the format is quite similar. If you're wanting to go with ungimmicked coins, this would be a good place to start. (That is, if you prefer to learn from videos rather than books.)

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re;
I have just started doing more public performances

What kind of public performances?
30 - 40 minute shows of card magic? Private parties?

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I'm considering sponge balls, coins (prepared to use gimmicked) rings and ropes.

That sounds about right.

I would suggest to others not to focus exclusively in one are when you begin in magic. Learn a variety of stuff from the beginning, by getting some of the basic, classic texts.

Next month, February, the Mark Wilson Course in Magic is being re-released in paperback. If you don't have it, get it, it will give you a good, all around grounding in magic.
The book can be pre-ordered from http://www.Amazon.com

Paul.
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Well, I know that I do not leave the house without one or two Thimbles. They are a life saver at those critical moments when you are put on the spot. I personally learned from Brad Burt's video on thimbles and billiard balls. Also, you should look into Crazy Man's Handcuffs. It's a little annoying when I will do 20 card tricks and some levitation with loops for a group, and then my brother walks up and does a rubberband trick and they think he is the greatest. It is a good trick. You can do it 3 or 4 times for the same people and not get busted. Smile
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There's a lot you can do with a TT.
Coins are a good way to go, although I think that they are a lot harder to master than cards. Practice in front of a mirror.

Ropes are cool but not something you want to carry around with you all the time. Tabary has a good act. Sponge balls are a lot of fun I just got some a few moths ago and have had a lot of fun working with them. Much depends on where you are performing. If working tables or walk around magic, Mcabee Rings are cool Smile
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Well, after cards, there is an entire world of magic. I recommend you continue with close-up magic. You know, take some stuff from David Williamson, or Michael Ammar´s Encores. Then you'll develop an act combining cardmagic and close-up magic.

All the best magic,

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I guess you should look at sponges first, as it will be a good introduction to coin magic in your progress through all avenues of magic. Sponge manipulation will give you invaluable timing in executing various coin sleights, as you will realise later on. And besides, sponge ball magic is one of the most powerful magic itself, since it's magic in the spectator's hands.
John F
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Never stop practicing and refining even the simple techniques, and the difficult ones, and thoses old routines, and new ones. Presentation should also be practiced and refined. Once you start something, it never stops, you work on it for life, when you die it's time to give up.

As for a good resource for magic, the "Tarbell Course in Magic" 1-8 (hardbound) are just terrific.
If that's out of your price range, then go for one of the classics, the book "Sleight-of-Hand" by Sachs (a cheap Dover reprint) or "Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic" (harbound) are probably the most common recommendations you'll hear.

Take it easy.

John. Smile
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I have Mark Wilsons "Cyclopedia of Magic" and if covers all areas of magic. You may also do a search at Amazon.com for Mark Wilson's course in magic.
lkdip
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mark wilsons cyclopedia of magic is great. I got mine at a used book store for $3 it is as good as it gets bang for buck and covers from close up to stage in some since or another.
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