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ibm_usa
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In speaking of Dyes I'm getting pretty tired of looking at a white dove and I am looking into dying my dove, what food coloring brand should I use? or does it matter?
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How about Pigeon will the work ? and plus they fly back home do doves and they also come in many colors
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The type of pigeons that return home are harder to train because they want to go to home when they fly not back to you.

Doves come in some of the same (flat) colours pigeons do...
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I have used pigeons! I used a fantail pigeon in a dove pan for a long time. They really don't fly far and are sort of funny looking. Their tail sticks up like a fan. Pigeons are much bigger than doves and they ARE messy and when they "go" on stage. (And they "go" in great quantity...Not at all like a teeny dove poop.) It can be bad if they happen to get your clothes.

Last year, I did a production at a memorial performance and released 15 white homing pigeons from a basket behind me. It was really pretty. You can probably get with a wedding dove release company if you want to add this to your outdoor show. The effect is stunning!
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Do dove come back home ?
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Nitemares666,

Magicians' Doves have absolutely no sense of homing. I frequently tell people that mine could not find the back yard from the back porch.

There is another interesting characteristic of these doves (scientifically researched). You can move their nests up and down with no fear of abandoned nests. However, moving the nests even a short distance (less than a foot) laterally frequently results in a lost nest! (Let's not look right or left! There are only ups and downs in a dove's world.) Apparently, even chickens are smarter.

Speaking of chickens, Matilda is officially certified as the world's oldest chicken. She spent 16 years doing magic! She is the ONLY magician's assistant to ever have a broken wand (broken perch) ceremony. Her video will play at the Cavalcade of Magic convention March 30-31, 2007 in the tribute "Ladies of Magic".

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I like the definition of a dove being the bird equivalent of a "cow" Smile

I got my first one last night, and it's sooooo nice not to bit.

That certainly can't be said about my cockatiel or parakeets when new.
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@Fraser,

Nice parrots with a magi-friendly tails are the Senegal or Meyers.

Their tails are very short, making them less prone to breakage/bending.

I played with three hand-fed ones yesterday in a shop.

They kept fighting over each for my head scratches Smile
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Ha! My cockatiel still bites and it's not new anymore!
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My cockatiel hasn't biten from day one.

I bought it hand-fed, and it's very tame.

Always pushing it's beak under my hand to be petted.

Just like a puppy.
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Pigeons are more intelligent than Doves, and thus can do more amazing things, Ali Bongo was telling me of a show he was working on where for one act he had to go up to the balcony and empty a basket of pigeons over the audience, they'd fly over them and land on the two girls outstretched arms. However, they're much bigger than Doves, and thus much harder to bodyload... size is an important part of bird magic.

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Laymen always mistaken doves for pigeons, well from my experience. There is a big difference! one easily mistaken bird is the Rock Dove, it looks like a mix between a black bird and a pigeon! here is the secret...Its a Dove! a very large dove!
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I use a sun conure in addition to doves as an ending they are about the same size
as a dove and it makes for a very colorful finish
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On 2007-04-10 10:18, that_magic_guy wrote:
I use a sun conure in addition to doves as an ending they are about the same size
as a dove and it makes for a very colorful finish


How do you find the feathers work? And what about their screeching(I read that they're horrible screechers)? I don't own any sun conures however I wanted to buy some as pets as well as magic assistants.

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Do you guys hang around till the early hours getting the doves down from the rafters after a show.

Jason.
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I haven't had any problems with the feathers and as far as the screeching goes mine do but not when they are in the harness.
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On 2007-04-14 20:20, The Hitchhiker wrote:
Do you guys hang around till the early hours getting the doves down from the rafters after a show.

Jason.



Jason,

A skilled crew with the follower spot can save a lot of those problems. Good lighting techs have saved my show many times. I'm always grateful for the guys in black. Sometimes they get credit for keeping the guys in the white coats away! LOL

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My cockatiel constantly screeches and it hurts my ears, but they are considered on a low side of the parrot screeching scale compared to a conure Smile

P.S. My new dove is so quiet though. It coos for about 2 seconds once or twice a day and that's it. Very peaceful.
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A skilled crew with the follower spot can save a lot of those problems. Good lighting techs have saved my show many times. I'm always grateful for the guys in black. Sometimes they get credit for keeping the guys in the white coats away! LOL

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Haha good thing too Bob, I was beginning to wonder if my imagination was running away with me or nobody wanted to think about my scenario.

Cheers

Ja.
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On 2007-04-14 20:20, The Hitchhiker wrote:
Do you guys hang around till the early hours getting the doves down from the rafters after a show.

Jason.



I think David Ginn and I can admit to having that experience in TV studios. The doves go to the light in the highest spot available. (They never read the script!)

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