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Mark Wilden.jpg "View Profile") Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts 
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I bought a bunch of magic stuff on eBay. Most of it was junk, but apparently unbeknownst to other bidders were six Ammar ETM DVDs. I nabbed the lot for about $60 - woo-hoo!
Also included was Professor's Nightmare. I had trouble understanding the restore to unequal lengths from the instructions provided so I went to James's Encylopedia of Rope Magic. I couldn't find it. Nor did I see it in Mark Wilson or Tarbell. I was surprised, since this seemed like a good beginner's trick (and I'm a good beginner). I ended up downloading a video tutorial from Penguin that made everything clear as day. But I was wondering why I couldn't find it in one of those standard sources. Does it go by another name? ///ark |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts
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It does Mark, or at least what it is based on does, I just can't remember at the moment. I do have a question for you sir. Are you new to magic? If so are you in SF proper, South of there perhaps? I ask because in Sunnyvale on Friday nights there is a gathering of magicians which might interest you.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5563 Posts
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It's found in a number of places. Dan Tong's new DVD's "Finally - 50 years of Magic" (volume 2) has his presentation on it (plus a number of other great routines).
Robert Baxt has his "Naughty & Nice three rope trick" DVD out. It is three different patter lines for the same handling and comes with rope. I'm away from home or I could give you a half dozen or so other videos/DVDs and book references but that will get you started with the easiest to find.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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jolyonjenkins Inner circle United Kingdom 1222 Posts
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It's in the James enclopaedia heavily disguised as part of the Hen Fetsch routine (page 413 of the new edition)
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Andre Hagen Inner circle 1432 Posts
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Mark, I believe Hen Fetsch first introduced the Professor's Nightmare in his "Quadropelets" routine. The fact that it has endured and has been incorporated in so many routines testifies to its audience appeal.
One of the best is Whit Haydn's "Mongolian Pop-Knot" routine. Timothy Wenk's "Insomnia" is an interesting variation, etc., etc. Daryl teaches the Professor's Nightmare very well in his rope videos. If you cannot put together an entertaining routine (or routines) from these videos you just aren't trying!
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein
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Mark Wilden Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts
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Thanks to all for those references, especially rjenkins for the pointer to Hen Fetsch's routine in the Encyclopedia. Interestingly, James mentions that the key to Phase One of the routine is based on "Bob Carver's well-known Professor's Nightmare trick." I guess the trick was too well-known to be included in its own right!
magicgrandpa, I went to Daryl's lecture on Wednesday, and had a great time. The next day, I ran into him at Misdirections, the SF magic store. We had a nice chat, and Joe took a picture of us together. I'm kicking myself for not buying a Daryl video and getting him to sign it. That rope video woulda been perfect! ///ark |
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Mark Fifield New user Barrie, On 51 Posts
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Theres a version of in in a Idiots guide to magic
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graywolf Special user South carolina 631 Posts
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I thought Bob Carver invented it!! Cordially, Howard
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24330 Posts
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Bob Carver invented the trick and it was knocked off by a lot of people. Gene Gordon purchased the rights from him, and now it belongs to Phil Willmarth.
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts
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You guys chimed in before I had a chance, but you're both right. Bob Carver invented it and named it and is rarely credited for it.
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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Mark Wilden Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts
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As I mentioned above, Bob Carver is credited in James's Encyclopedia.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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The earliest 3 or 4 to one rope was created by "Carlyle" (real name Lyle Laughlin), I believe, before Fetsch. I have a goofy version that hopefully will be in Genii and a few months. Starts with one rope and finishes with one rope.
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Mark Wilden Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts
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On 2007-03-28 19:51, Pete Biro wrote: Is that "Professor's Nightmare"? While I'm on the subject, what's the story behind the name? ///ark |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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No, Lyle's was different and I forget the name (it was over 30 years ago when he showed it to me). Bob Carver's is the Professor's Nightmare.
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts
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Quote: It's called "The Professor's Nightmare" because of the patter presentation Carver had. Since this is still a marketed trick, it would be improper to reveal the actual patter here (not saying that's what you were requesting, Mark).On 2007-03-28 20:36, Mark Wilden wrote:
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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Mark Wilden Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts
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On 2007-03-28 23:28, Scott F. Guinn wrote:
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It's called "The Professor's Nightmare" because of the patter presentation Carver had. Since this is still a marketed trick, it would be improper to reveal the actual patter here (not saying that's what you were requesting, Mark). I was hoping that Carver's own spiel, at least, was in the public domain by now. If I could buy it from him, I would certainly do so. However, aren't the people who are selling it now actually infringing? In which case, do their sales deserve protection? Just thinking out loud. I guess I'll end up buying the Daryl treatment. ///ark |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24330 Posts
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Well, it's not in the public domain, but you can buy it from Phil Willmarth. You can't buy it from Bob Carver unless you use John Edward to deliver the money.
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Mark Wilden Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts
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If Phil Willmarth is selling, then I'm buying. Any friend of Eugene Burger is a friend of mine.
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts
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On 2007-03-28 04:00, Bill Palmer wrote: Aha! I had always seen it referred to as "Gene Gordon's Professor's Nightmare", and now I know why. I presume Gene Gordon bought it and marketed it, and that's how his name got associated with it. Thanks again Bill! Don
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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I had always been told that it was invented by Bob Carver, the information coming from several people who knew him. However...
The following, which I just read the other day, is in the latest lecture notes by Pavel, "Magical Creation, or How to invent a new trick!": Quote:
PROFESSOR'S NIGHTMARE...I learnt that Gene Gordon's Magic Shop had marketed this trick in 1950. Gene purchased the manufacturing rights from a magician named Paul Young (to whom an award had been given for the trick at a M.A.E.S. Convention). The back stories are becoming as equal/unequal as the ropes! ~michael
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