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Right on, Harry!
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Here's a bit of trivia: Who was the only American actor in Godzilla and his character name is the same as a famous comedian's... Can you name both?


The actor is Raymond Burr and he played Steve Martin.

Mr. Burr did not appear in the original Japanese release of the film. His scenes were shot latter and inserted for the American release of the film
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You are correct, Mr. Payne.
Now, this is quite touchy, but does anyone here know the reference of Rosebud that Welles put into the movie?
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One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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The "Rosebud" reference is often what is considered at the heart of the furious opposition W.R. Hearst had to Orson Welles' production of "Kane".
Hearst's mistress was sometimes-actress Marion Davies and "Rosebud" was his pet name for her -- uh, shall we say -- more intimate parts!
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Citizen Kane is definitely more of a favorite of critics and film historians but not nescessarily movie buffs. I have studied film history and film theory and found that most people much prefer something like Casablanca as opposed to citizen kane. Citizen kane is most important for its technical aspects like D.W. Griffith's films were for there sense of editing and narative.

I also have to say that (while not nescessarily better) John Carpenter's remake of the thing is an incredibly suspensful movie that also did some groundbreaking work for special effects.

All in all though I'd have to say that Im impressed with people's lists (not that my opinion is important). Usually when asked what peoples favorite movies are, I hear things like Titanic or American Pie. Maybe theres something to us magicians after all.

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On 2003-04-28 09:20, sdgiu wrote:
All time Worst movie

Ishtar- Warren Beaty & Dustin Hoffman


NBC's Gene Shalit had the best movie review I have ever seen, heard or read.

He saw Ishtar, hated it, and reported to his Today Show audience:

"Ishtar ishtarrible." End of review.

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I feel that tastes in movies can change, not only from child to teenager to adult, - but also during different stages of adulthood.

I'd have never thought I would have been so spellbound at the old Trevor Howard, Celia Johnson movie "Brief Encounter" for instance, but this 1946 David Lean (Dr. Zhivago) movie with music by Sergei Rachmaninov can tear a mature receptive older viewer's emotions to shreds!

A married doctor meets a woman in a dirty railway station Café. He removes a bit of steam loco grit from her eye. She is also married with kids. A love affair starts, but they both realize it cannot continue as to do so would destroy the lives of too many people, and he has been offered in job in South Africa.

They even both go to a friend's apartment, but are interrupted and realize the cheapness of what they are doing. They agree to meet one last time, in the station Café. Just before they part for the last time some awful babbling woman comes and sits at the table. His train arrives, he has to go, they are unable to even say goodbye! The final exchange of eye-contact between Howard and Johnson above the rantings of this woman are not to be missed.

Great counter focus here too of the rough, loud-mouthed Stationmaster played by Stanley Holloway (Liza's dad in My Fair Lady) chatting up the middle-aged artificially well-spoken proprietress of the Café, surrounded by cups with no handles and buns that have been on the floor and put back on sale!

http://rottentomatoes.com/m/BriefEncounter-1003094

Whereas on the other hand my 12 year old son probably feels the same way about "Judge Dread"!


One film that has endured with me for most of my life is "The Searchers" with John Wayne (Uncle Ethan Edwards' relentless and heartbreaking search over years, for little Debbie who was taken by Native American Comanches).

Although I obviously see it in a totally different perspective as my first viewing as a schoolboy. For anyone who's never seen this 1956 masterpiece it's on DVD now. Many folks say the big guy could not act, and probably in many instances were right. But in "The Searchers" Wayne's performance is probably greater than all the movies in his long career combined, - it is simply out of this world (the greatest western ever made? I think so).

http://rottentomatoes.com/m/TheSearchers-1018455/

Should have been a reviewer really instead of kid's entertainer!

Tony.
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One of my favorite quotes about movies was by a writer (whose name escapes me at the moment -- but not a film critic) who said of Citizen Kane:

"Welles was a very young man when me made the movie(Citizen Kane).
"The unfortunate thing is that he never made another movie as good.
"The fortunate thing is that nobody else ever did, either!"
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Wells also gives a menacing and fine (but overdrawn) performance as The Preacher in the 1956 Gregory Peck, Richard Basehart movie "Moby Dick".

I always find Peck somewhat limited in this role of 'Ahab', - but many years later in "The Boys From Brazil" (1978) in the final act, when placed in a one to one scene with the quite awesome acting ability of Laurence Olivier, - Peck shows what a truly great performer he is. (Also starred James Mason).
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Kind of off topic, but I remembered the funniest review given of an actor... I was actually in the same play with him. The actor was playing the role of Armstrong Custer and the review said of the actor, "He was smaller than life." Smile
I also remember reading somewhere about a review on someone playing a Shakespearean king and the review said, "He played the king like he thought someone had an ace." Smile
Anyone have a funny review to quote?
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Roger Ebert has a book out (forgot the title) which is basically a collection of reviews of what he deems to be the worst movies of all time. There's some really funny stuff in there. I highly encourage anyone who wants a good laugh to seek out his reviews of "North" and "Caligula."
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The "king/ace" was a Dorothy Parker review, if I'm not mistaken (and may very well be!).

George Kaufman (of Man Who Came To Dinner fame) wrote frequently as a critic. He was reviewing a club singer named Guido Nazzo and was feeling quite clever with the review: "Guido Nazzo is notso guido!"
Or, at least he was until he realized that everywhere the poor guy went, other reviewers were also using the line (because it WAS so clever) to the point where Nazzo couldn't get a job.
Kaufman ended up writing a character in one of his plays for Nazzo, just to give the poor guy (and not all that bad a singer) a job.
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UK Channel 4 been running two nights of viewers 100 Best Film Stars. Ok, so De Niro (or was it Pacino? - well one of those small method actors who grunts and uses his eyes a lot!!) came out tops, but just not included at all were: Heston, Lancaster, Mitchum, Cooper, Valentino, either Howards, Douglas snr., Mills, Mason, Guinness, Tracey, Ford, Marvin, Moore (R), Harris, Lugosi, Karloff, Flynn, any of the Bridges, either Keaton, Palance, Bogarde, Cagney, and OLIVIER!! (to name just a few!). Either that or I'd gone to the loo for every one of these.

Top of the deceased list was Cary Grant.

Welles was near the bottom. John Wayne was branded a racist! Brando a failure!

Seems to me that this list was made in some under 30s winebar in Sloan Square by a lot of people called Rupert and Charlotte, or maybe down at the local Little Acorns pre-school!! Now I don't expect anyone to vote for George Raft as best actor in 2003, - but when I spend 6 hours watching a "best 100 Stars list" I expect intelligence. There's an easy log-on website if you want to visit (and express your views) at:

http://www.channel4.com/stars
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I recently saw a film called "Waking Life", and I loved it. Its quite "deep", but I recommend it highly.

The worst movie ever is "Zoolander". Who's with me?!?
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I saw "Waking Life" with a small audience at a festival screening, and it was one of the most pleasant movie-going experiences I've had. A very refreshing and life-affirming piece of work, especially when you consider all the work that went into it.

I also recently finally got a chance to see the unrated version of "Y Tu Mama Tambien" the Oscar-nominated film from Mexico. If are comfortable with a film that fearlessly and bluntly approaches sexuality and mortality, then this is a very powerful and rewarding experience.
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My Best Movie: Casino, Joy Luck Club and Forest Gump

Worst Movie: Austin Power Goldmember

Scariest Movie: Exocist and The Ring(Japan version)
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Tony , you left some other great stars off your list
1 BOGART
2.Spencer Tracy
3 Lon Chaney SR and JR
4Peter Laurie ( not to be confused with P Marucci
Garry Cooper
6. Barry Fitzgerald
7 Zazoo Pitts.......among others
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Some favorites:
Silent-
Sunrise
The Crowd (King Vidor)
Trip to the Moon (George Melies) - for those of you who don't know George Melies more or less invented trick photography and was a magician who owned a theater named after Robert Houdin, he also invented the first movie studio called the Black Maria.

Any Chaplin or Buster Keaton,

all Hitchcock films- esp. Vertigo, Psycho, and 39 Steps
Casablanca (anything with Peter Laurie)
Big Sleep
Night of the Hunter (incredible)
Citizen Kane
most Woody Allen esp. Manhattan, play it again sam (didn't direct), shadows and fog, etc.
breathless (Godard)
last year at meirenband (Bunuel)
Dr. Strangelove (anything w/Sellers)
The Shining
Godfather 1 and 2
Peggy Sue got Married
Breakfast Club
Apocalypse Now
Taxi Driver
Do the Right Thing
Crooklyn
Lonestar
Searchers
Star Wars (and Empire)
On Golden Pond
Out of Sight
Jacobs Ladder
Midnight Cowboy
Mary Poppins
Exorcist
Touch of Evil
Un Chien Andalou (Dali and Bunuel)
City of Lost Children
Snow White
Goodfellas
E.T.
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Wizard of Oz
African Queen
Lawrence of Arabia
Chinatown
West Side Story
Network
Deer Hunter

Worst movies
95% of all the movies ever made.
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Vinny, please go back to my posting. I was referring to the stars MISSED OUT by a ridiculous Channel 4 TV Channel listing of the best 100.

On the panel of so-called expert commentators by the way was everyone's favourite foul-mouthed yob, Liam Gallagher from the group Oasis (or is it called Cesspit?). The comments on Brando being a failure "who's one of those guys who eats his way out of things" came from Steven Berkhoff (yes, his name could be substituted for something similar sounding!).
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My three favorite movies are:

Forest Gump
Silence of the Lambs
Godfather 1

quite a variety Smile
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