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teejay
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I know that BEST is relative
I have started looking at ESP cards and I am looking for a GOOD mentalist
effect If you could say what you think is a good one, it will give me an
idea where to start
Please say if the effect is mind reading, prediction or other
Cheers
TJ
Al Straker
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Here are some sources for mental effects with ESP cards.

Try Maven's Videomind series for 2 excellent effects with ESP cards.

Also see Sean Taylor's Symbology Deck instruction booklet (which is more like a book of effects) for an array of ESP card effects. Lastly the booklet that comes with Michael Murray's Beyond ESP is another good resource. Some of Taylor's and Murray's ones require a marked ESP deck.

Better than all of these would be to come up with something original that has a plot you can sell with your personality. My favourite ESP symbol effect is a very simple one I came up with (adapted from known efefcts and principles). It is so simple that magicians would probably turn their nose up at it. It uses the ESP poker chips (recently released) combined with the Gilbreath principle as normally applied to an effect where you tear 5 business cards in half. This effect is often known as "Last two cards match" or "Will the cards match". I introduce it by saying "We are going to make a statement to the universe and see if it is listening...". I then go into an intention creates reality type premise for the effect. It appears very clean in that the spectators handle everything and make all decisions through the effect.

Hope these references help.

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Al
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Look here Smile
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15
It really got ME thinking.
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Reading minds is where it starts with me. I like how Richard Osterlind call cards on his volume 2 of Mind Mysteries. But he uses playing cards. He does show a good rountine using ESP cards on volume 3 of Easy to Mater Mental Miracles.
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Personally, I don't think this can be beaten:

http://www.astormagic.com/shop/product_i......aba3c0e4

It's not cheap, but the workings are truly amazing and you can repeat (once) it with a different result.
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As you alluded, the "best" effect with ESP cards is the one that works best for you... My favorites are Max Maven's Symbalance (on his dvd VideoMind Phase 2) and Richard Osterlind's ESP Card System (in his book The Very Modern Mind Reader and also on his dvd Mind Mysteries Vol. 7 I believe).

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Quote:
On 2007-03-27 11:16, looch wrote:
Allow me to direct your attention here...

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=4768813

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15





I second and third that ....good stuff, direct and mostly simple. Great price for the info contained.
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teejay
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Thanks for all that info
I'm starting to examine them all
Thanks again
TJ
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You may be interested in my complete review of Dan Tong's ESP found here:

http://www.magictalk.com/cgi-bin/reviews.cgi

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teejay
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Nice one, Ted
Thanks
TJ
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Having purchased tons of ESP matching routines...and trying them all in the real world...my favorite is John George's "Perfect ESP". It is not "on the market" so to speak...you can only get it from his lectures...and if you contact him personally. (www.johngeorge.com)

It is perfect for the strolling magician...VERY easy...VERY convincing...VERY open handling...and no sticky tape, adhesives, or R/S. I saw John kill with this at The Magic Castle one week when we did close up there...it really got an awesome response...he was kind enough to share it with me...and only recently started releasing this on a limited basis.

This is a real "gem" as far as I am concerned...I own 5 sets!

I hope this helps,
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Cody... Thank you for the info. I trust your knowledge and experience, and thus I must search for this one.
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I want to second Cody Fisher on this effect by John George. I've seen him do it on stage (in our 2 man show) and close-up/walk around. Plays very strong. He's been out of town for the last week and a half so he'll be getting back today and answering any questions you all may have.
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Any more on this?
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I'm happy to suggest my own "Bob's Your Uncle" effect for consideration here, a close simulation of the Rhine ESP-card-matching protocol (where the audience member does all the matching, and gets to take the credit). Widely praised by working mentalists, this version is simple to perform, closely adheres to the Rhine protocols, and uses no extra/gaffed cards or gimmicks of any kind. Just the ten cards. It's fully repeatable, which is good because audiences invariably want to see it again!

If you prefer the reverse effect, where the entertainer does the matching, I can also recommend Peter Nardi's "Perfect ESP", which can be found on his and Marc Spelmann's Unexpected DVD set. I have always felt this to be a somewhat weaker effect, but this is a very clever (and also simple) version of it, again using no gaffs or duplicates.
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ESP cards are cool!
I love Triception that CCD taught me.

Cassidy has a cool one "The Zener Effect."

Jheff Ponncher has a neat book of three effects called "The Symbol Act"

The booklet that comes with the Beyond Esp 2 cards has solid stuff in it and the Submodalities DVD by Murray et al will keep you busy for a while.

The Bill Cushman symbol thing with the biz card? Super Trippy. Mentalink. Yes indeed.

On the underground side, I think the "Bob Costas Trick" is probably still the most unbelievable thing I have ever seen with ESP cards. It can be easily adapted to playing cards but it works great with Tarot cards and even better with ESP cards.

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Don,

You think the Bob Costas Trick will ever be released?
obijuan
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Marks Bond, house magician at the safe house in Milwaukee, has a great variation of a classic esp trick!
Gordon Fisher
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The ESP effect on submodalities by Dave humphries is good
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