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needledoc
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For anyone who is interested, Dube at 520 Broadway in NYC has unfinished throwing knife blanks for $5 a piece. I don't think they'll ship them and there were only about 50-60 in the box when I went there, so get them while there hot. Unfortunately they are unfinished blanks so you need to have access to tools to sharpen and shape them yourself, but they are only $5.
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Dube has many interesting and useful things. Everybody should check them out.
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Look at that Harley figured out his avatar dilemma, I'm proud of ya man.
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Thanks to airship!

It was too obvious, and no wonder I didn't see it. I hate buttons.
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Nice, and the best thing is, you don't need an edge on them, just a good sturdy tip, so for the most part unless they were not heat treated, they are ready to go right out of the box.
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I just orderes some from instawares.com. It's a restaurant supply place, but they had throwing knives. 14" cold steel pro thrower for $8.54 each. Take ten bucks off with google checkout. It was quite a deal.
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I think the bunny in hat avatar looks more like Harley than that picture.
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What exactly do you mean by unfinished, are they just unpointed? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Scary,,,,,,quick put the bunny back,,,,gonna get nightmares tonight!
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I'm guessing it's a rough metal not a mirror or brushed finish on them as well as not having a point, not a huge deal, but if they aren't shipping them then you'd have to travel to NYC from jersey. Kinda defeats the point of being "cheap" if you're traveling to get them.
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Heh... I blame myself. Didn't know he was gonna go for a close up!!

A word on working metal: You can't just take a knife to a grinder or sander and work it into a shape and be okay. If you overheat the tip you will lose its' temper. Tempering is a method of heat treatment that removes hardness from metals. The word heat treatment is too wide and general of a term to use anyway. Quenching, annealing, hardening and tempering are ALL forms of heat treatment, so which one would it be listed as? Anyway, when I forge knives and swords (yes I make swords, but they are letter opener size DO NOT ASK ME TO MAKE YOU A SWORD TO SWALLOW!), I pound the yellow hot metal into shape, then grind it into form and put an edge on it. Then it goes back into the forge to a yellow heat and quenched in either an oil bath or brine. At this point the metal is very hard, but also very brittle, so it needs to be tempered to draw away that brittle characteristic. Tempering is heating the metal back to around 400 to 600 degrees, I know when the metal is tempered right by the oxidizing colors that run on the surface (the temper oxides are beautiful rainbows of color that occur when metal is heated). NOW to the point (literally and figuratively): When grinding/sanding a point, (I recommend a 1" vertical belt sander) I keep a basin of water nearby. Every pass I take on the knife point I dip the knife into the water. This keeps the metal from losing its temper! It also keeps the metal from overheating even slightly enough to cause burns. If the knife has any sort of sharp edge, it is recommended to wrap the knife with masking tape. If the sander catches the blade at ANY time, it will fling it down on the bench and bounce all over, becoming a dangerous uncontrolled flying weapon.

Hope this helps. If you don't have access to a workshop, PM me about doing this for you.
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Kondini, now let me get this straight - YOU'RE complaining about how scary somebody ELSE'S avatar is? Smile
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Nipps you summed up the whole knife/sword making process up in a single paragraph. And that is exactly it.

You don't need an edge or a shiny finish for a good throwing knife, you need one with a good spring temper and a nice point. (no need to sharpen something you are going to throw, espically when you are going to destroy the edge from it hitting things anyways.)
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Nice... they're one letter away from being sued by Throwdini. Plus, they don't give an accurate steel series number. This company does put out nice stuff, I've bought from them years ago. This is the company than makes knives you can buy readily from any vagabond at a flea market. The throwing knives listed here are CNC cut from sheet, just like any knife in todays market. The powder coat is no added bonus, and actually retards the effect of relfected light, so it won't be a good thing for stage work. Plus, at $24.05 per knife it seems more geared to competition throwers.
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Yeah the Cold Steel series does cater more to the guys that will beat the living snot out of their products, but you can just sand blast off the coating (it will take a while though, but you can do it.

Plus, they did step on a few toes with some of their new throwers unfortunatly, and they might be pulling them from the product line. (copies of the old tru-ballence knives)

http://www.coldsteel.com/throwers.html

not shiney, but wow it's some good stuff.
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I stopped by at Dube today and picked up 4 of the unfinished knives. I like the way they feel better than the cold steel ones that arrived on Friday, though I haven't thrown them yet. Now let me get this striaght, there is no need to thin the sides nearest to the point, or the sides should be thinned? Basically they are the same thickness from top to bottom with no taper near the point.
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Hmmm, I might have to pick some up.

I have been throwing knives for a few years now. And I collect knives as well.
Always on the look out for knives, whether they are build them your selfs or premade.
Plus it would give me a reason to get some more knive tools.
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Addy, they don't need to look nice, just throw them.

The slight bevel near the tip mainly works for asthetic purpose, and it also depends on your target type. If your target is made of a softer material, then there shouldn't be a problem. Some say that it aids in penetration when throwing, but that all depends on how hard you throw.

If you do decide to do it, don't let the steel change colors while grinding, if that happens the blade is ruined. Your better off using a file and a lot of patience.
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Thanks! I'll try them as is and if they stick, that's it.
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