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Jeff Jenson Veteran user Denver, Colorado 319 Posts |
I'm planning on building the "Modern Rabbit Box Production" from the Tarbell book Vol.3 Pg. 381 – 386, not for a production but a vanish. The only thing that is not clear to me is how long can the rabbit stay in the bag after the vanish. Also, what type of cloth would you recommend for this effect?
Thank you, Jeff
Jeff Jenson
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
I have Abbott's Rabbit Vanish Supreme, and it uses some type of a velvet cloth. The cloth is rather heavy. As far as the rabbit remaining in the bag, I really don't know. I bought mine on E-bay and I have not used it yet.
Having said that, I would not feel comfortable leaving my rabbit in this material for a long period of time. If you leave the bunny in the cloth while on stage he is going to have to be hidden from view or you might have a 'haunted' cloth effect before the show is over. For this reason alone I would figure a way to get him offstage and out of the bag pretty quickly. Regan
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Suggestion: Because rabbits dig, keep the bunny's claws well-trimmed and filed smooth. Even better, get him off stage ASAP! Be prepared to replace the cloth frequently. If you use male rabbits, be prepared to replace the cloth VERY often. (Ask Johnny Thompson. LOL)
The interior of mine actually has a small plastic bucket the world never sees. It survives rabbit claws. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
TrickyRicky Inner circle TrickyRicky 1653 Posts |
I think it's much more appealing to the audience if you let the bunny stay around.
I used to use the Supreme Vanish years back. I eventually sold mine to a friend. He sold it to someone else. Richard. |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Richard,
I agree with you that the public likes to see the animals. In theater shows that provide an autograph area after the show, we display the doves, rabbits, horses, geese, goats or whatever we have used in the show. I think more photos are made with the animals than the humans! Productions that fail to provide that contact miss a valuable marketing opportunity. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
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On 2007-04-25 08:07, Bob Sanders wrote: So true. Regarding children's shows, it would be a shame not to give children a chance to see your HAPPY looking animals after a show. I have always likes productions more than vanishes because I let my rabbit stroll around a bit after appearing. For this reason, I have kept the production toward or at the end of a show. Once a rabbit is in view, small children will look at nothing else. Pity the magician working with animals if he or she has a big ego, a rabbit will win out. Bob |
btedeski Veteran user Pittsburgh PA 322 Posts |
I also agree that with Kids shows the animal is as much a star as you are, if you look at things from the kids point of view.
I end my show with the rabbit production "mirror Box" move to the "Wabbit Ringer" the n finish with the line "Oh I forgot you all want to pet the rabbit" I roll the flat rabbit back into the box. Put a balloon pump to the side of the box and re-inflate the bunny. I then Produce the rabbit for the second and final time. That ends the show, and I pose for photos, and let the kids pet the bunny while I hold her. |
Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Jeff77: reading all of the above posts, I guess you know by now that you need to decide if you want to make the vanish permanent, or have some way to bring the bunny back within the context of the show. That's a personal decision. The childrens' magicians don't like having weeping kids come up to them after the show inquiring if the bunny is dead, but if you are performing this for adults, I think they can handle it better. However, my question is why not turn to P.394 and build the Unique Rabbit Vanish? In my opinion, that is a much better choice for a vanish than the Modern Production. Vanishes are tricky to begin with because the audience immediately begins searching for where the rabbit might be.
Jim Gerrish has several good vanishes in his Hardboard and Duct Tape Magic Book 2 (on my site). One is the "Visible Vanish," which he originally designed for use with a rabbit, and the other is his collection of "Tear Apart and Take Apart Dove Vanishes," which can work equally well for vanishing bunnies. Of all of his vanishes, I particularly like his Take Apart Vanish Variation #2, where he has a helper assist him in dismantling the box AND the table, handing the pieces of box to the helper as he shows them to be plain thin pieces of hardboard. The first time I saw this, I was completely confounded, even though I had performed the root effect from which the variation came many times. You are left with the impression that the rabbit has truly vanished, with no clue as to where it might be. Yet, the rabbit can then be easily reloaded into some other prop or even a hat for a final bow.
Professor Spellbinder
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Mumblemore Inner circle 1429 Posts |
While the Abbott Rabbit Vanish Supreme is a clever prop, whoever invented it clearly was not thinking of the bunny. The load area is too heavy and too small, and rabbits like flat surfaces and feel insecure (at least mine does) when they are not on terra firma or in a box with a solid floor. Not recommended for rabbits at all. Find another means. I do plan to try the Rabbit Vanish with Rocky Raccoon or with a stuffed rabbit which I hope to disappear and "turn" real in the Swan Doll House or the Rabbit Grinder, or best of all Barry Mitchell's Presto Appearance Box, the best rabbit appearance box I know of.
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