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sdmagic Special user 697 Posts |
This is a new wallet (available in May from Brookstone) .
brookstone.com It may have some utility for a unique modern way to do "Card to Wallet". Just shoot a few full frame pictures of your favorite force cards, and use the LCD screen to reveal... It could be combined with a CTW routine that uses traditional palming techniques (multiple cards "located") It also may be able to be used for some prediction or other mentalism effects. It packs flat, is easily carried, and not too high priced. I'm going to pick one up and play with it... sdmagic |
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mrunge Inner circle Charleston, SC 3716 Posts |
That's an interesting idea. And the price is not bad either!
Mark. |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
That would be great until my wife threw it in the washing machine.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I am always intrigued by "New modern ways" to do tricks that are perfectly fine as they are.
Here is a presentational hint. The more "technology" involved in the routine, in generl has a bad affect on impact. With technology what it is people KNOW what can be done. Why when you have an effect like signed card to wallet would you ever want to dillute impact like that is beyond me.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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sdmagic Special user 697 Posts |
Danny - I've heard that opinion from a few others. But I think there is always room to expand our thinking about magic as an artform.
I believe they said similar things when the automobile was invented... why would you need such a thing when you can get from place to place on a horse? This is not to suggest that technology is in any way a substitute for skill, but it may be able to offer us some interesting opportunities to entertain. And isn't that what it is all about? This wallet is simply another tool some magicians may want to add to their tool box. Nothing more. If handled properly it doesn't need to dilute the impact of the CTW effect. Indeed if it doesn't enhance the effect we're not doing something right. Toys for toys sake don't make any sense to me. I'm not suggesting anyone NEEDS this thing to do a good CTW, that would be silly. That being said, I don't think most people have EVER Heard of an electronic wallet. It's just weird enough that some audiences may find it interesting or even humorous. My 2 cents. sdmagic |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
You miss the point. You are comparing apples and hand grenades and it is why magic suffers from the likes of Criss Angel and David Blaine.
The car is a non issue. The idea of a car is to get from place to place faster. The idea with a magic trick is to entertain, instill wonder or what have you. When you introduce technology to magic, you then eliminate some of the entertainment value. WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. See magic when people think "oh well he had that screen programed" is not magic. It is a toy. You have taken what you want to be an "art form" and you then reduce it to nothing more than something someone else can buy. I am not saying technology has NO place in magic, quite the contrary. Jason Latmer has a fine "Lazer Illusion" which is fantastic entertainment. BUT to take a trick like card to wallet, and reduce it to simply the technology, well it takes away from the entertainment, instead of ADDING. The automobile ADDED.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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sdmagic Special user 697 Posts |
I do see what you are saying here, and I couldn't agree more re: Criss Angel's approach. Trick photography and green screens are not magic.
And whatever we do it should add to the entertainment value, not detract. I just think condemning a potential prop or tool or category of tools before considering how it could be used to entertain may be a bit short sighted. Please don't take offense here, we may have differing opinions but I highly respect your work, and enjoy your posts! Regards, sdmagic |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Considering props:
I watched Copperfield's "duck in a box" routine. It is great except for one tiny part. The take-apart box. It looked very "technology" to me and ruined the effect for me. The bunny bucket was perfect for the routine as was everything else. But the stainless-just-got-it-from-the-magic-store take apart box was a horrible idea for the vanish. With all the money he as to put into an act, he should have paid for a method that did not reek of "technology". The wallet here is in the same genre to me. As soon as the audience sees something like this the "wonder" is gone and is replaced in their mind with "trick". I think the rule of thumb here is that we should use the simplest looking prop possible to get the job done. Now it could be a very high-technology prop but it must LOOK simple and "free from guile".
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RicHeka Inner circle 3999 Posts |
It's a matter of performance philosophy.
Personally I would rarely use any prop that has any hint of high tech or modernity associated with it. I take a back to basics approach. I realize I am probabily at the extreme...I don't even like anything that looks new,shiny,or mass produced. There are a few exceptions if the design and method is so interesting that it overwhelms thought of high tech.Examples: Osterlinds Stainless Steel Blindfold and P-Pik Prediction cards. That doesn't mean that others can't entertain with modern tech props...if that is what ones character calls for..you do have a performance character don't you? I just feel that ordinary looking props can add to believability,and inhibit suspicion. Rich |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I think it is great. If you can't entertain with showing pix of your kids or pets, and as an afterthought find a card inside the wallet... c'mon...
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
They're not finding a card inside the wallet. just a photo of the card was the idea behind this, I believe.
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h_A_Z Special user Ireland/Msia 701 Posts |
Cool! I might get one just fer fun! The price is not too bad if you think about it
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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts |
But the picture is so small, how can it play well for large audiences? They would barely be able to see the picture if more than 5 people were at the table. Just seems to impractical.
And who want's a picture of the selected card? That's not magicical. C'mon, give your audience SOME credit. Some people actually know things about forcing. They might not use the lingo, but they know that magicians can make people take a certain card. And that button on the front...why? Why? Why would you do that to yourself? The classic card to wallet is already good. It's doesn't need improvement (hince the 'classic' part. ). Best, Steve |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Quote:
On 2007-04-30 14:15, Frank Starsini wrote: VERY true. It was EXACTLY my point.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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sdmagic Special user 697 Posts |
Wow! Tough crowd. You guys are absolutely right. It was a bad idea. Sorry.
sdmagic |
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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts |
Quote:
On 2007-04-30 17:56, sdmagic wrote: Don't be sorry. We're just saying for THAT effect, CTW, it's not the best idea. Like you said though, it's looks pretty versitile and can possibly be used in a large number of effects, predictions, etc. And besides, like mentioned. We all have our own character. If it fits your character, then get it. Best, Steve |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Technology can have a fantastic place in magic - well, it already does - but as Frank showed, if it is to be used, it must be used in a way that is not visible to the audience.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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JustinVisible Elite user South Jersey/Philadelphia Areas 453 Posts |
So with the small picture, why not a picture of just the pip of the card revealing what the seleceted card was then from inside the copmartment, a DB which is taken out, "back showing" and then flipped over (on the deck) to show the selection OR signed selection. This CTW scheme has been done and published so many times over... It's almost like the screen can be used as an XRAY machine - use a black card instead of traditional.... The more I think about it, the more it seems realistic to make something like that work.... Thanks sdmagic for bringing it up...
I would be more than happy to brainstorm via PM if you're really interested in this product. I know I am.... Cheers, JPV
"If they laugh, it's funny..."
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
I agree with the tech part of it messing up a great trick such as CTW...but what if it was a pic of the signed card to wallet? Something to the effect that yo0u went ahead in time and took the pic yesterday.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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JeffMac Veteran user Sudbury, ont 350 Posts |
That might be cool but now your talkin a whole lot more tech and a whole lot mor cash
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