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Andy the cardician
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There are several used ones already out there for sale. I wonder why?
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Probably people just made a copy for theirselves and selling the original ones.
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Doesn't that mean that they have no intention of performing them? It's unethical to perform his routines without his DVD...Right?
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I think so and becouse of that I have devised a way to put an end to that kind of low life BS with my next DVD.

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Great Jim.

I would suggest that performers who would like to support the Art and creator's... only purchase DVD's that are still sealed in their cellophane.

This set especially...was a great value to begin with...so why would a serious and ethical performer purchase a second hand set?...that MAY have been copied[by the owner] and resold.
Just to save a few bucks?

So you can get a new set for $100,and a second hand set for $80.If that $20 bucks is that important..I feel sorry for you.
When you see a set come up for sale ask if it is still sealed.[There is a set up right now where the owner say's he got one as gift...fine...it should be sealed then]

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Amen!
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These DVDs are as awesome as all of Richard's other work. He's just unbelievable, how much value he puts onto each video...

Really, for most if you own his MM 7 volume set, this (and Tarbell) you can stop buying other stuff. You won't get enough time in your life to perform it all.
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Hmm, the latest DVD set was entertaining to watch, mostly for the premise, and for watching Richard in action again (i love watching performers do their stuff well!). I wasn't overwhelmed by the effects, even though they were generally sound and stronger than a lot of material out there already.

I guess my main source of discontent (if you can even call it that) was the outstanding quality of the Mind Mysteries series, in particular Vol 1. The multiple levels of subtlety and timing and precision that Richard exhibited in the items from his main show are truly that of a master who has honed his creations to perfection. I savoured learning all these, and applying them to what I do. The effects in this series just didn't have the same depth of performing experience that I was hoping for, somewhat similar to that of the ETMMM series - good quality stuff, but slightly rough around the edges still.

While the effects in No Camera Tricks are quite clever and definitely performable, some don't quite live up to the tag of TV magic. Maybe we've been spoilt by the genius of derren brown and creative editing of criss angel, but effects like stenoESP, while possibly playing big in a stand-up or perhaps even impromptu situation, kinda came across convoluted and 'fishy' during the demonstration. Clearly Mindreading is also clearly inferior to Osterlind's original ThoughtScan, because of the suspicious holding of the envelopes while doing the readings: the Invisible Persuader Principle (to quote another Richard, Mr Busch) that Osterlind uses is not strong enough to allay the suspicions caused by holding the envelopes so close to a clear clipboard (hope this is not too much exposure!). I was also slightly miffed that several of the effects shown and taught had to be purchased separately - it's just that I'm a bit of a puritan, and would like the purchase of my DVD to enable me to perform most of the effects within using the stuff I've already got at home. Of course, it IS clearly stated that these are marketed effects, so I went in with my eyes open. I also never really liked What's My Sign, and was a bit disappointed that the method was not better hidden with Osterlind's updated subtlety. Possibly I'm just thinking like a magician, and it somehow spews into my performances as well - I find it hard to sell the effect cos I don't believe in it.

That being said, this is not a bad offering from one of the most generous, ingenious and affable minds in our field today. Pegasus Page should not have been released on DVD, hopefully no one will take the little trouble to make up the gimmick so that those who perform it can continue to do so in exclusivity. Wonderful new methods for destroying cutlery are explained. Digital Feedback with a store-bought calculator was awesome to watch, and I love his presentational touch that takes it above a simple mathematical prediction trick (it's not possible with every calculator under the sun, but it's reasonably accessible enough for it to appear impromptu when the chance arises). And I loved watching the short clips of him performing to live audiences outside L&L, pure gold. The hypnosis DVD IMHO was also worth the price of admission.

Bottom Line: This is a must for Osterlind fans, and for those who want to see a good quality, recorded stage hypnosis show. Unfortunately, for those who have not seen Osterlind in action before, it'll probably be better to start with the Mind Mysteries series. Vol 1 is packed with good stuff, and tips hard-earned from years of performing for real people. Get the companion ebooks too if you can afford them.
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Again, though, ISawThat, as MANY have pointed out in reviews of countless books, notes, and DVDs (mediums where more than one effect is explained) if a performer gets just ONE effect out of the entire collection then there should be no complaints. This is certainly no exception, and I can see most of us getting MUCH more than that.

As you said, Pegasus Page is a show-stopping effect, as are several others on the DVDs that are easily strong enough to justify the purchase price of the entire set. If you will USE them...

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Excellent DVD's.
There is something for everyone, but what I really like is the way the effects can be suited to so many styles of performing. And the bonus disk, is a REAL bonus.
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Why is it you can only get the bonus disc through l&l or Richard himself? Doesn't this hurt the brick and mortar magic shops? Why would someone want to buy the dvds if they can't get the bonus disc?
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Mindhunter, while I do believe that one good routine might a DVD make, it also means that the material might have been condensed further. I don't have much to gripe about this set, but Osterlind IMHO is a victim of his own success with his Mind Mysteries set. The nuances of timing and psychological subtleties used in his stand-up routine that he generously shares in most of Vol 1 is a great example of what an instructional DVD should be like, if only everyone else thought as hard and were as willing to share.

I'm not saying this set shouldn't be bought, I'm just saying that for someone new to his work, Mind Mysteries would be a far superior starting place, and you literally could make a living with that set alone.

>Piers, that effect actually reminds me almost entirely of a routine by Basil Horwitz, but it could well be possible that both of them (and others) came up with such a use independently.
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Yes, it would be hard to actually TOP Mind Mysteries, wouldn't it!?

(I think this is right up there in many aspects, though!)

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On 2007-05-28 02:09, Piers wrote:
Excellent DVD's.
And the bonus disk, is a REAL bonus.
Off to buy some putty.

Piers.


.....Isn't that SO cool...

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Re: Disappointment that this set isn't the same as Mind Myskeries...

I'm purchasing a set of Osterlind DVDs for a friend in mentalism. Of all the DVD sets I could have chosen, I chose this set. NOT because it's superior to Mind Myskeries (Whether it is or not is moot.) but because this offers a variety, and ways of thinking that might be new to this friend. Yes, MM is a hard act to follow -- and I wouldn't envy Richard & Jim such a task! But this succeeds on several different levels, and shows this stuff working outside the studio. These reasons made this set the obvious choice for someone's first Osterlind DVDs. (Besides, where else would one get to see that marvelous hypnosis show?!)

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Well said, Chet!

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The way I see it, Mind mysteries, ETMM, and no camera tricks are different sets, simple as that.All are fantastic.
Each set is stand alone in my mind.

No camera tricks is top notch in performance and effects, how ever it shows some never before seen tecneques, and also shows how some times a very difficult to learn skill that no one else might be bothered to learn can put you on top and make you a real mystery maker.
I will say one thing, if you are intent on learning the material such as I am, it could keep you going for a few weeks, in fact Richard practically shows you how to devise your own effect from putting different pieces of together, I really love how flexable he is.

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I only learned about the new discs thru the L&L catalogue, so I immediately bought them. I thought I *was* supporting Richard thru L&L! When I found out about the booklet I was disappointed, because the zodiac effect is a great opener, and a great effect! So how do I *now* get a copy of the booklet? Richard's site says that it will only be sold if the DVD set is purchased thru his site, and there is no mention of it thru L&L...

Lee
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On 2007-06-04 23:15, espmagic wrote:
I only learned about the new discs thru the L&L catalogue, so I immediately bought them. I thought I *was* supporting Richard thru L&L! When I found out about the booklet I was disappointed, because the zodiac effect is a great opener, and a great effect! So how do I *now* get a copy of the booklet? Richard's site says that it will only be sold if the DVD set is purchased thru his site, and there is no mention of it thru L&L...

Lee

This is my problem , were told always to support our local magic shop. but who would buy through them if you can get more from the supplier?
It's like why go to a car dealer when you can go to the manufacturer and get it cheaper.
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I love the metal bendng on this set. Even more convincing than his previous dvds.
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I guess we need to find someone who will copy the book for us, and then send a few bucks to Richard directly for the invasion of his copyright! <grin>

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