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John Heggie
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Hansen,
Great find.
Thanks for the link.

~John
baggins321
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Does derren offer any dvd's teaching his card techniques such as this one? or would anybody be willing to point me in the right direction to obtaining some learning material so I might be able to duplicate this effect?
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You can get the "Devils Picture Book" from his site http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/products

There are also his books "Pure Effect" and "Absolute Magic" which you may be able to get from http://www.internationalmagic.com along with his lecture DVD.
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"The Devil's Picturebook" is highly, highly and highly recommended. Wonderful card magic doesn't begin to describe it. For some reason while watching "The Devil's Picturebook" I couldn't help thinking that if Shakespeare were alive today and performing card magic, then this is what it would look like! Now that's a recommendation!
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I seem to remember that when this was first aired there had been a lot of criticism on forums previously that maybe editing had been used to highten the effects he achieved in past series by cutting out all of the bits that made stuff work. I remember thinking at the time that this was one of the occasions when Derren had basically turned round and given the finger to people who had made that claim (in that very dry humour that he has) by making what he was doing so obvious if you knew what to look for and still flooring his subject. It was so out of character for him to do something that we might consider so blatant when we look at it when we're in the know that I took it as an 'in joke' and always have every time that I have seen it.
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Oooo that was pretty Smile I don't think that any of the moves were obvious to lay people at all. The two technical moves in the routine were very well executed.
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On 2007-05-10 02:10, baggins321 wrote:
Does derren offer any dvd's teaching his card techniques such as this one? or would anybody be willing to point me in the right direction to obtaining some learning material so I might be able to duplicate this effect?


Duplicating the effect is probably not the best approach to take here.
Lennart Green and Tom Mullica are two of the big influences on his early work, if that helps.
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Does anybody know the correct password to get into his website? I believe I know it and will pm you with it, but it doesn't seem to be working.
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What I was refering to when I mentioned things being obvious was more to do with the way that the shots were framed rather than with Derrens technique. All it would have taken was the camera to be placed a few inches from where it was and the moves would have been completely out of shot. The fact that the moves are there in view when a very small difference in filming would have masked that makes me believe that leaving them in was a very deliberate choice. My comments weren't intended to be disparaging, quite the opposite in fact. I love the fact that he did what he did with this particular section as it is executed quite beautifully.
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On 2007-05-10 21:11, baggins321 wrote:
Does anybody know the correct password to get into his website? I believe I know it and will pm you with it, but it doesn't seem to be working.


If you know the password, try it, and it should work. If it isn't working, you probably don't have the right password.
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The password for his site is the same as it always ever was. If you're not getting entry then you don't have the correct password as has been montioned in previuos posts. I've just been to check that everything is as it was and, it is.
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I though this was very well done. The slights were not that evident since most people would be observing the picking up of the written paper. Probably only other magicians would notice the moves.

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Harry H
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So the password is still "Snuffleupagus" ?
ChristopherM
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Yes, Harry, unfortunately so. Far too obvious to magicians, really, it's a shame. He should change the question/add a few more. Or perhaps simply flash [FORGET] before you can type the answer.
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No the camera angle for those two sleights was near perfect. It is in fact the same angle as used in the Devil's BP.m If we're going to credit the slieghts then Steranko rather than green is probably the correct credit (as Green is always at pains to point out). The fact of it is that the 2nd move is very bold and does not work well for large groups unless the misdirection is very strong
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A couple of nice lessons for the young (and old) magician in this clip. Mr Living is a strong willed gent of the type that has made many a trick more difficult.

Lesson 1. I like how the prediction card is used when Mr L. has gone past the stop.

Lesson 2.Derren seems only slightly bemused when it appears that Mr L is determined to deal right to the very end of the deck (not that it matters to the trick): to me Mr L. would have bridled at any extra pressure - I might have pushed just to hurry things along. Mistake.

Lesson 3. Gilt edged decks look nice on camera when professionally lit.
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Mhhh..the first misdirection was great to cover an actually very simple move and a very nice example of how to build up the "trick" (I wonder what Derren would have done if his guest would have said "stop" immediately after he said that he shall do so every time he wished ;-))...the second part of the trick would have made Slydini proud...(I think for magicians it is quite obvious what happens)
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This routine is great and the moves are perfect for it - its all about the offbeat (which I've read is one of Justin Miller's favorite aspects of routines). I learnt the 2nd move a while back from Derren's 'DPB' DVD where he uses it in an effect called Doublethink, and have applied it to a 'Past, present, & future' mentalist card-effect which I developed and perform.

Also, for those looking for out for a Return of the Derren, this card effect from the 3rd series of TotM is brillaint. Great stuff!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmilV9TXQ......;search=

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