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Joey Stalin
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It's my lung! Did you guess correctly?

Well since last Sunday (13th) night, I developed some weird pain in my chest. If you have ever taken a deep breath and gotten a sharp pain in your side, it is just like that, but constantly. I figured it was something like that, except just lasting a bit longer, so I go to bed with this pain. Then the next morning I wake up with it. So then I was a little bit worried. So I decide to walk down to the after-hours walk-in clinic. A distance of maybe a block and a half. I had to stop due to pain and shortness of breath twice. The place was full so I decide I'll come back tomorrow or something. Well then I decided to go to the bank which is about a half a block, almost had to stop again. So on my way back passing the walk-in, I decide I guess I should see a doctor. So I go in, and she tells me it would probably be a 2 hour wait, I can either stay or come back before 8:30. I chose to wait, other people just left and said they would come back, luckily I got to see the doctor sooner cause the people ahead of me weren't there. And he does that thing with the stethoscope, breath in and out ect., and fills me out a form for an x-ray.

So the next day I go to the local x ray clinic, and they tell me they are book solid for 2 weeks. I am thinking, you think somebody with chest pain would get some kind of priority. They tell me I have to go to the next big city and have it there, so I do. And after they irradiate me, I leave and decide to stop by the mall and wonder around. I was gone maybe 3 hours. When I get home my father asks if they told me what was wrong, I say no, at that moment my brother calls asking if I am alright ect. ect., I am thinking alrigh what the hell is going on, and my dad tells me they just called saying I have a small hole in one of my lungs.

So I am to go back to the doctor tomorrow and get the 411, or if I become short of breath to go directly to the hospital. Well talk about the BEST DAY EVER!
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Good luck to you. I wonder how a hole in the lung develops?
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I want socialized medicine too!
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On 2007-05-16 03:26, balducci wrote:
I wonder how a hole in the lung develops?


Unless, from outside trauma. Holes can occur when the pleural membrane dries and rubs up against other tissue due to an absence of mucous. This is common in cold climate regions, it's usually just a temporary sharp pain that goes away after a few short breaths.
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On 2007-05-16 03:14, Joey Stalin wrote:
It's my lung! Did you guess correctly?



Dang! I was guessing stomach.
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Don't worry about it, you don't need lungs.
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Hmm, that is new to me . . . yet, I was never good in biology
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Lungs are cool. My dad inhaled something as a kid and his lung collapsed or something like that. They cut him open, removed the sucker, and he carried on with the one lung and has never had a problem. The neat thing, and this tells how science and medicine are cool, is he has this scar about an inch wide, inch deep, and four or five inches long in his back where they cut him open. The doc said today if it happened they would be able to fix it with a needle inserted.
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I once got in trouble at the Café, when I joked about someone's serious medical condition. So I'll refrain from suggesting Fix-A-Flat.
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On 2007-05-16 09:59, Avrakdavra wrote:
I want socialized medicine too!

And so you should! Smile

Joey was stressed out (which came through in his post) but he did get quick service. Hopefully he received good news from his doctor today.

About health care in different countries, here is a recent news article on the subject:

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Americans get least bang for buck on health care: report

MAGGIE FOX
Reuters

May 14, 2007 at 2:21 PM EDT

WASHINGTON — Americans get the poorest health care and yet pay the most compared to five other rich countries, according to a report released on Tuesday.

Germany, Britain, Australia and Canada all provide better care for less money, the Commonwealth Fund report found.

"The U.S. health care system ranks last compared with five other nations on measures of quality, access, efficiency, equity, and outcomes," the non-profit group which studies health care issues said in a statement.

Canada rates second worst out of the five overall. Germany scored highest, followed by Britain, Australia and New Zealand.

"The United States is not getting value for the money that is spent on health care," Commonwealth Fund president Karen Davis said in a telephone interview.

The group has consistently found that the United States, the only one of the six nations that does not provide universal health care, scores more poorly than the others on many measures of health care.

Congress, President George W. Bush, many employers and insurers have all agreed in recent months to overhaul the U.S. health care system – a uncoordinated conglomeration of employer-funded care, private health insurance and government programs.

The current system leaves about 45 million people with no insurance at all, according to U.S. government estimates from 2005, and many studies have shown most of these people do not receive preventive services that not only keep them healthier, but reduce long-term costs.

Ms. Davis said the fund's researchers looked at hard data for the report.

"It is pretty indisputable that we spend twice what other countries spend on average," she said.

Per capita health spending in the United States in 2004 was $6,102 (U.S.), twice that of Germany, which spent $3,005. Canada spent $3,165, New Zealand $2,083 and Australia $2,876, while Britain spent $2,546 per person.

"We focus primarily on measures that are sensitive to medical care making a difference -- infant mortality and healthy lives at age 60," Ms. Davis said. "Those are pretty key measures, like how long you live and whether you are going to die before age 75."

Measures of other aspects of care such as cataract surgery or hip replacements is harder to come by, she said.

They also looked at convenience and again found the United States lacking – with a few exceptions.

"We include measures such as waiting more than four months for elective, non-emergency surgery. The United States doesn't do as well as Germany but it does a lot better than the other countries on waiting time for surgery," Ms. Davis said.

"We looked at the time it takes to get in to see your own doctor … (or) once you go to the emergency room do you sit there for more than two hours, and truthfully, we don't do well on those measures," Davis said.

According to the report, 61 per cent of U.S. patients said it was somewhat or very difficult to get care on nights or weekends, compared with 25 per cent to 59 per cent in other countries.

"The area where the U.S. health care system performs best is preventive care, an area that has been monitored closely for over a decade by managed care plans," the report reads.

The United States had the fewest patients –84 per cent –reporting that they have a regular doctor.

And U.S. doctors are the least wired, with the lowest percentage using electronic medical records or receiving electronic updates on recommended treatments.
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If I was in Canada I would get the same health care I get here. None. I plan on just dropping dead from Everything.
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Joey Stalin
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So the top couple inches of my right lung is collapsed. I get to get irradiated every day now so they can track and see if it progresses. You can start calling me radioactive man. I wonder how many x rays it takes before it starts getting dangerous.
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Don't worry about the xrays. I called my dad, his lung collapsed thus the huge scar and removal. Be thankful you live today.

I have two ways to reduce cost of medicine, three actually. One is to get rid of the easy lawsuits against the medical world....not the legit ones the ones that are just part of life and function. The lawyers will hate that. Second is the US can stop paying more for prescription drugs to offset the cost to countries like Canada. Third, military doctors can work in clinics. They get paid the same no matter what they are doing so make 'em do the office stuff illegals and those w/out insurance bring to emergency rooms. No questions, no billing.
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Joey,

What happened to you is called a spontaneous pneumothorax. Basically the lung collapses for no reason, ie: trauma. This condition is most common in slender athletic males with a barrel chest between the ages of 17 - 28. To reinflate the lung in conditions of 20-25% collapse it is most common to have a chest tube inserted, the tube is then connected to a vacuum pump. This causes reinflation of the lung and makes the patient much more comfortable. If the condition re-occurs often enough a surgical procedure is used to adhere the lung to the lining of the plural cavity thus preventing future episodes.

Regards,
Bill Sutter

P.S. I know this as a result of personal experience. Been there, had that done.
Joey Stalin
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Yeah, got back not too long ago from the hospital. Turns out it had collapsed a bit more since the yesterday. So under some local anesthetic they inserted somewhere between 6 to 8 inches of tubing into my chest cavity. A rather interesting feeling... up until the local wore off. Now it is painful just taking deep breaths lol. But they said to expect that. So I get to go back tomorrow and get irradiated again to see if this thing is doing it's job.
-A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.
-It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
-The secret impresses no one. The trick you use it for is everything.

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Wow, all the best to you, Joey.
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My dad had developed a hole in his lung 8 years after he quit smoking. He did smoke about 2 packs a day back then, but then he completely quit. The doctors had to cut a hole in his side, break two ribs to get access and fold it over and staple it shut. He hasn't had problems since.

I wish you the best of luck Joey!!
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Welcome to the world of spontaneous pneumothorax. Did you get a chest tube placed? Best of luck with this. No worries as it's quite common.
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