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K_B_G Regular user 136 Posts |
Hi everyone
I've had the TT for ages and it now sits in my box not used, I guess once I went past my beginner stage of shoving a hank in my hand and making it vanish is kind of phased out. I mean don’t’ get me wrong I still think the TT is probably the single most amazing invention and gimmick in the whole of magic!! Here within lies my dilemma, I know how powerful some of the effects with a TT can be the only thing that worries me is how unbelievable commercial and well known this device has become, especially for vanishing a cig or hank. It is exposed in cheap magic set all around the world and even appears exposed in movies such as Night at the Museum. The only thing I've considered using it for is the bill switch, which I have done with great success. I would be interested to hear the general consensus on the TT, who uses it, and for what, professional work? Any fav effects, I need some inspiration to start using it again.. I’m thinking that once I use it Ill soon loose all fear as I begin to realize the majority remains ignorant to its secret? Thanks Kyle |
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
Check out David Williamson's "Rebate." It's in Williamson's Wonders and also on his Magic Farm DVD.
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Matt Malinas Inner circle Transylvania 1367 Posts |
Bill in Lemon is a true classic!
and if you fear that you will get caught with the TT use a FT -Matt
The masters make the rules, for the wise men and the fools
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
21 years later, I still use it in my show. Like good wine, it gets better with age.
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K_B_G Regular user 136 Posts |
I'm looking at effects that are more along the lines of resturant/strollling, with repeat performance in mind.. billswitch is good, but anything else?
Thanks Kyle |
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Louis.P.M Loyal user Montreal, Canada 218 Posts |
The good old Salt Vanish.
And Jay Sankey has a nice autograph switch in his Front Row DVD. I find it's more involving for the spectator than a bill. If I am not mistaken, Ortiz has a complete DVD with effects only using the TT. I can't remember the name right now. |
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
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On 2007-05-17 03:15, K_B_G wrote: In that case, I'll still go back to Williamson who does a nice bit with a salt shaker and coffee cup. Instant reset, as well. |
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FunTimeAl Special user 987 Posts |
Justin Miller does a great torn & restored SIGNED sugar packet on Jailhouse. That trick alone should revive anyones faith in the mightiness of the TT.
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Passe Passe Salt.
Double Bill Mismade Bill routine. Billet Switching. T & R Paper Coin from rolled up bill (think "coin in bottle" and you'll get the method) Get a copy of 25 Stunners with a Thumbtip by Frank Chapan (if you can find it) and you will be on your way! Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
<BR>"Because NICE Matters!" |
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serge storms Veteran user Las Vegas 380 Posts |
In addition to the bill switch (which I've almost completely switched to a tipless bill switch) I use it for my signed torn and restored card; torn and restored bill; and the torn/poured and restored signed sugar packet effect.
There are several dvd's available dedicated to nothing but material to be done with a TT. Any of them will get your TT juices flowing again as they have mine. |
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Katterfel22 Regular user Greenville, NC 130 Posts |
Just curious, but does anyone still use the metal thumbtips as opposed to the newer plastic and rubber versions. If so, why?
Cave ab homine unius libri - Latin epigram
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antonio2030 Regular user 112 Posts |
I am in a kinda like same situation, I always carry the thumb tip with me, but not use it a lot, just when asked to do something quick and don´t have cards around, bottles, coins or stuff like that, but I hate that some of the thing that the thumb tip is like "made for" people know, like you said from kid´s magic sets and stuff, I liked when I bought my first magic set but now is kinda anoying that from time to time someone comes and whisper to me "i didn´t see it but you did the finger stuff right? I know how it´s done" or even say they have one, anyway, I keep use it on regular basis for Holey shirt, which I think is fairly good.
Torn and restored card torn and restored bill bill desapeared etc... |
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zachdotcom New user Orlando, FL 58 Posts |
When I learned Vernon's kick out steal, I started carrying a thumb tip again.
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gardini Regular user Cornwall, Ontario, Canada 158 Posts |
Zachdotcom, what book is Vernon's kick out steal in?
Gardini |
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fred200 Loyal user 213 Posts |
Check the Losander tape Magic anytime anywhere this is a full routine in several phases using the TT.
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
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On 2007-05-30 08:45, gardini wrote: I think it's actually called the Kick Steal. I'm not near my library at the moment, but I think it is in the Dai Vernon Book of Magic. |
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MichaelRivera New user 4 Posts |
Hi, I just got my first resturant gig about a month ago. And I don't know a lot of tricks with the TT but I use it constantly. I do Silly BIlly's idea, where I put the hank in my fist and then look away and throw it on the floor, then I open my hand and say look its gone and the kids starts laughing saying 'nooo, its on the floor' then I included the magic word and really make it disappear and the parents and kids go wow, some of the kids know of the TT, form the movie but I just say that's our little secret, plus, even if they know about it they still enjoy the laugh. Then I make the hank float in the air which makes them wow some more.
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MagicMattMan Special user Tampa, FL 741 Posts |
Since I mostly am a cardman, I use my TT for Amazing jonathan's balancing card on back of hand. PM if you've never used it like that b4 and would like to know how.
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, none will suffice." -Joseph Dunninger
"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it."Hebrews 13:2 |
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Bendy Special user Columbus, Ohio 518 Posts |
Most people who know about the TT that aren't magicians, know about vanishing a silk and not much else. While exposure such as that which I've heard of in "Night At The Museum," really ticks me off; I have used a TT many, many times in front of those who have been exposed to the method and they have been completely baffled. Stay away from vanishes that require you to visibly poke your thumb in your fist and you should be okay. (Dai Vernon's "Kick Steal" or "Kick-Out Steal" has been mentioned. That's a great steal and avoids that tell-tale thumb-poking move. It's explained in Darwin's book of 101 TT Tricks, as well as in Darwin's Encyclopedia of TT Magic DVD set. I'm sure you can find it in other resources, as well.)
Bill switches are great TT illusions. I also use the TT for a torn/opened and restored sweetener packet. The handling I use I got from another Chrisitan Illusionist and that handling sparked an idea for a presentation that goes along with it. No one has ever suspected a TT when I've done it. Here's the key to a lot of that: the performance. If you just do a trick where you vanish or produce something out of your fist, then you're going to get nailed once in a while - usually by a kid whose seen it in a movie or in their magic kit at home. But if you add a story line or something else that give purpose to what you're doing other than just showing a trick, their minds will be occupied with the performance while their eyes are occupied with the trick. Use some mental misdirection and personality in it. Otherwise, you'll be just another person who knows how to use a TT. Big whoop. There are some great booklets out with effect suggestions. They're well-worth the 3 to 5 bucks you'll spend on them. There are some great DVDs out that provide instruction on handling as well as effects. To fully appreciate this versatile and brilliant utility item, you must use it properly and use it often. Then you'll find that even those who have been exposed to it will not even consider that you're using one and you will find yourself imagining new ways to use them. Get a TT that is a real-looking as possible. That way, should you flash it, (or point it directly at the spectator - which I like to do), they won't see a shiny, light-reflective, off-colored, unnatural thing in plain sight. There'll be those arrogant ones on this site that will tell you that if you do it right, the spectators will never see it. ...And for the most part, their logic is right, though their arrogance is often offensive. But with the exposure the TT has gotten, I say that the greater freedom of NATURAL movement you have, the better; and the more natural-looking TTs can help in that area. So, to sum up: Practice. Get some materials, (books or DVDs), that will help your technique and personal creativity. Use a more natural-looking TT. Stay away from merely vanishing a silk or some other object. Incorporate the TT in more elaborate and original illusions. Add stories, performance and personality to what you're doing. Practice some more. |
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millarhouse Regular user New Zealand 199 Posts |
Check out "Examining The Thumbtip" DVD by Alexander DeCova
It will change the way you think about the thumb tip, and how it can be 'operated' I use the thumb tip at least once in each show. I believe that you are going to use the TT more than once in a performance, then the handlings should be completely different, so as not provide evidence of similiar 'suspicious' handlings. Warren |
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