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Emazdad
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If you could name one magic prop that you consider above all to be gods give to childrens entertainers what would it be.

My Answer would be the one handed change bag. it can be used in so many ways, and allows the magician lots of scope to interact with the kids while the magic happens.
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Im going to agree with Emazdad, the change bag....perhaps maybe number two is the break away wand...*ALWAYS* gets laughs!!! If the kids don't seem interested, bring it on out and your almost gaurnteed a laugh! So in my opnion its a toss up!
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Yep, the one-handed three compartment change bag. Followed by comedy wands, fall to bits/'bang' flag guns, small mirror production boxes etc.

Other props. such as sliding-die principles, Elusive Rabbits (Hippety Hop), Washing machine, dove pans etc. are an individual's personal choice (which I'll not criticise if it works well for you!)
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Change bag and different wands would my choice also. What worries me is all these different tricks in the shops now for kids. When are they going to start selling the change bag. we would be snookered if kids found that out.

All the best, Billy
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God's gift to magicians has to be Bunny Rabbits Smile
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Hi,
I think that if kids found out about the change bag it would not bother me too much. I do use one, but only as a part of a stronger effect. I am sure if it was exposed I could use an alternative, maybe a jap box or a harbin switch box.

I think silks are a very useful prop and Spring snakes.
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Thumb tip. With out a doubt an incredibly versatile prop. If one needed to you could do a whole show with one. I can be pulling silks out of ears, shoes socks hats forever if the kids had their way. Vanishing, changing, creating holes, appearing . . I don't think you could get a better bang for your buck - and you can carry one everywhere! (OK, if you are wearing a speedo you might get a few stares!).

The nice think is that it works equally well with kids and adults. Packs small, plays big, works will ALL audiences, is inexpensive, can be carried anywhere, and you don't have to speak the same language to work wonders. Why more performers don't use this simple prop I will never know.
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Me (of course...) I can entertain kids for a long time without any props and do so in my birthday shows. A lot of times I use ordinary things to make the kids and adults laugh. My use of plungers is always a hit. I'll even use objects around the performing area (chairs, tables, coins) to do stuff. More powerful using their stuff.

Posted: Apr 15, 2006 4:23pm
A great way to see some people entertain without props is go watch buskers. Be there at the beginning and watch how they gather a crowd. Often you'll find that they have really only 15 minutes of "actual" performance material. The rest is them just drawing people in.

I saw on such busker at an event we both were at, work over an hour on a downtown street in a large city, just to get a descent sized crowd. An hour. All he really did for his act was a straight jacket/chain escape and had a few balloons. Talk about travelling light!
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I would suggest any really good book on how to perform for children...my vote would be Seriously Silly by David Kaye. Armed with the psychology/methodology of performing for children all of your props are made immediately made better.
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On 2006-04-15 15:45, Al Angello wrote:
I gotta go with Mr. Bill the entertainer. It has nothing to do with the wand, and everything to do with the magician. If you remove the magician there is nothing left but useless gimmicks.
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The question was about A GOOD prop, and by making comments like this (which we have all heard many times) you discourage people to communicate on this thread. I know this was not your intention. Truthfully, if you remove all the props from a magician you have an entertainer (at best), not a magician. A magician HAS to have props. Even if we are doing the arm twist or Meir Yedid's Finger Fantasies we are using out limbs/hands as props. I know it was not intended to be such, but it is slighting those of us that answered the question by implying that we are hacks. We all have our favorites, and I am sure you do too. The prop does not make the magician, but if given the choice to perform with out any props or with a prop, I know I will be asking for a thumb tip.

Mr. Bill does use props. He talks about plungers and things borrows from around the house (Bill, I hope you are not borrowing the plunger!*G*) BTW, Buskers DO use props as you mentioned. I know, I lived off busking for a few years. Because they have to carry them, and it is often outside an HOT, you learn to wring every last bit of entertainment out of each one. A busker with out props is . . . well, not a magician. Maybe a singer or a begger . . .

Yes, we should not rely on props instead of skill - or should we? I can spend days perfecting a knuckle buster, or I can use a stripper deck. The audience won't care, and I will have more time on presentation. I don’t use trick decks for card work - not because I am against them - but because they are expensive and I don’t want to grab a wrong deck by accident.

Props ARE important. They can let us focus on presentation. They lend spice & color to our shows. They can help pay for a show. A mediocre stage stage magician with lots of shiny boxes can make more than a good comedy magician with small props. People may enjoy the comedy magician more but they will still expect to pay more for Mr. Mediocre. There is a perceived value with nice props. It may have NOTHING to do with the quality of the entertainer, but IT WILL bring in the money. I am embarrassed to say it but many parents who know nothing about me, book me because of Jax, my Greenwing Macaw. I don’t think I am Mr. Mediocre, but I have learned a thing or two from him.

The quality of the prop counts too. Look at Wolfs Magic props. They are well designed and made. If I did a presentation with his ABC Gumball Re-Combobulator (at $450) and another with a standard square circle ($50 max???) I know which one would be enjoyed the most, and which one would help me book more parties. One party pays for the difference. One of the dirty little things about being a children's magician is I see a lot of is "Keeping up with the Jones'". Many clients want the best for this reason, and they are often my clients. A great web site, great props, an exotic animal, and a great show add up to food on my family's table. It is sad, but true, that many a good performer languishes while a lessor performer does well because of a good investment in props.

Al, I have read many of your GREAT posts in the past, but I think you missed it on this one. I know you have seen magicians who rely on props instead of personality and skill, but that is not this discussion. You are tossing the baby out with the bath water!
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On 2006-04-15 15:20, mrbilldentertainer wrote:
Me (of course...) I can entertain kids for a long time without any props and do so in my birthday shows.


I think that's fine if you are billing yourself as an entertainer, not a magician. I'm going to be a miffed parent if you show up and hardly perform a magic show when that's what I paid for.

I think some people go too far either direction. All props, no entertainment, or all jokes with little magic. Either one is jeopardizing what the paying audience expected and received. A really great magician rides the line that straddles the middle of both worlds.

My vote: Axtell Board
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As for props then I would say pretty much anything by Wolfs Magic...I have many of them and they all play really really well...Wacky Weasal, ABC Gumball, Blow Yur Stack, Hip Hop, Sword Chicken...my show is like some others on the Café-a walking ad for Wolfs Magic...you simply can't lose with them.
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Smartini...

Are you on Chance Wolfs Pay Roll?

-stephen
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Captain Kid. I agree that you can go too far either way. There always has to be that happy medium.

My point (which you certainly got) was that no matter what prop, it's how you as an entertainer use it.

Posted: Apr 16, 2006 10:43am
Magic Rabbit, of course my customers know exactly what they are going to get. I sing and dance, and interact with the kids at the beginning. Notic that the original post said "gods gift to children's entertainers" not children's magician!

But in keeping with the thread, one prop I always use is my plungers (yes mine and not theirs!) and a juggling ring. Notice I hava a bald head. Can you figure what I do that is a signature part of my act, whether it is for adults or kids?
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On 2006-04-15 22:49, sspanks wrote:
Smartini...

Are you on Chance Wolfs Pay Roll?

-stephen


Stephen,

No, but why do you ask?

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I love the weasel. It is the best investment that I have ever made. It plays very well, or should I say...I play very well with it. Have a great Sunday all. ( My act is also a Chance Wolf advertisement. I have too much fun with the Wacky Wolf stuff.)
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Wacky Weasal, ABC Gumball, Blow Yur Stack, Hip Hop, Sword Chicken...my show is like some others on the Café-a walking ad for Wolfs Magic
..............

( My act is also a Chance Wolf advertisement. I have too much fun with the Wacky Wolf stuff.)


HI,
This would be a huge reason for me not to buy them!
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Mr Bill, Mr. Bill! I am embarassed to say it, but the plunger makes a fine prop which I use all the time. As yourself, my head is particulrly well made for one.*G*

Yes, if everybody had Wolf props, I would not want them. Thankfully they don't. I don't have any, but plan to have some in the near future. It does seem that a Wolf product is a bit of a "status symbol" on this board. Well, at least they are great products, and if I was going to try to buy way to success, I could not do better than a Wolf prop.
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Phillip,

If you were to purchase some Wacky Wolf products that fit your show then you would be the exception rather than the rule. The folks that have posted here are Wacky Wolf owners from literally all over the world or at least all over North America. This is one of the selling features of any well made/quality magic...that no one else has them because the price excludes the casual from doing so. I suppose this does make some of his effects a bit of a "status symbol" as Captain Kid notes but of course you still need to be able to do something with these effects in terms of routine and performance. It would be great if you're able to use magic that you yourself have made/created and that was one of a kind originals. I like to think that my performance of these effects is unique and one of a kind. I do pride myself on this.

Smartini
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