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On 2007-07-08 06:33, jstone wrote:
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On 2007-07-08 01:52, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
Scotty York taught Mike Ammar Card on The Ceiling using wax. Scotty later went to the thumb tac because he felt the other way exposed the method.

If I was wrapping the deck in a bill ( GTFM ) then the tac would be for me.



That's seems a little backwards? I'm curious why he felt that having a hidden ball of wax was more revealing than openly showing a thumb tack? Any thoughts?


He felt the tac didn't expose it. It was more magical how the card passed through the deck. They know about the tac, so seeing it or finding it later doesn't mean anything. Finding the wax has them discover the method. They seem to lose the mystery of how it passed through the deck.
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On 2007-07-08 12:21, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
He felt the tac didn't expose it. It was more magical how the card passed through the deck. They know about the tac, so seeing it or finding it later doesn't mean anything. Finding the wax has them discover the method. They seem to lose the mystery of how it passed through the deck.


I guess I never really thought about them taking the card down. I've never had that happen. I have friends who have had one of my cards on their ceiling for literally several years. I have them in my house from times when friends come over.

From the perspective of the card never being removed, I think the wax his more mysterious because nobody knows how it's sticking. The tack could be explained away (by someone who didn't see it happen) by assuming that someone just climbed a ladder and stuck a card to the ceiling.

I guess I'll have to hope that nobody gets curious enough to pull mine down. There's one in my mom's garage that's been there almost two years!

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This thread has sort of steered way off course, but I've been thinking a lot about the various ideas, opinions and discussions regarding card on ceiling. Ironically, I'm the one who started off by saying that we should bother with such discussions. I'm starting to wonder now...

Having said that, I thought it would be interesting to take a poll, so I posted a poll regarding card on ceiling. You can find it on my blog. My web address is in my signature. Take a second to cast your vote.

Thanks...
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Wow... Nobody's taken my offer to post their opinion on my blog. I think I may take the poll down. I'll give it one last shot.

If anyone wants to vote on their favorite card on ceiling method, go to my site (see my signature below), and click on the "Blog" tab.

Thanks.
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I just voted Jeff. Your efforts were not in vain Smile:)
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You have my vote as well.
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Excellent (said with a Mr. Burns sounding voice)... thank for the votes guys.
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Not to change the subject, but would this be a waste if you already have R. Paul Wilson's Royal Road and Ammar's ETMCM 1-3?
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No. But only if you don't own a ton of other Sankey material. Many of the tricks can be found on The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol. 1-3 from LL Pub. That set is a great buy!
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On 2007-07-13 18:00, Jason Simonds wrote:
Not to change the subject, but would this be a waste if you already have R. Paul Wilson's Royal Road and Ammar's ETMCM 1-3?


My take on that is that even if the material were identical, it's still good to have to see someone else perform it.
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How long is the DVD? How many Disks?
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The descriptions says the DVD is 100 minutes, 1 dvd could take that.

I seriously, seriously, seriously, wish that this dvd came out like 3 years ago for me. This would've helped me so much. I've probably spent more than 50 dollars learning just some few of those tricks. Anyone beginning or still learning the basics should get this dvd. I don't have it but the stuff you learn is what every card worker should have locked in his brain.
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Doesn't Sankey have a similar DVD, "Sleight Of Hand With Cards" - Jay Sankey?
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Your talking about the same dvd. I searched the same and it's the same dvd.
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Seems to be two titles of the same.
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Ross Bertram put the deck in the box when he did card on ceiling. This predates Sankey.

Someone mentioned Ammar being the first to bind up a deck -- that's not true either. Why make it up if you don't know it? Yeesh.
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On 2007-08-07 03:11, sirbrad wrote:
OK so these are the same DVD?

http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=9221

http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=8864


The demos look different.


These ARE different DVD's. One is the basic sleight of hand course in card magic, the other is footage of a seminar in I believe April 2005.
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On 2007-08-07 01:39, shaunproof wrote:
Ross Bertram put the deck in the box when he did card on ceiling. This predates Sankey.

Someone mentioned Ammar being the first to bind up a deck -- that's not true either. Why make it up if you don't know it? Yeesh.

To be clear, I'm not claiming Bertram did it first (but not claiming he didn't either). Just stating that it's been done before.
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Jay did a great job on this DVD.
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