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mark1991
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Hi there,

What are the best juggling balls people can recommend to me? I have just cracked the five ball cascade, so I want a nice set of 6 balls to continue my juggling experience.

So far I have only been using seed-filled ones that cost me about £1 each, but I would like a nicer set to continue with.

Any help, advice or guidance will be greatly appreciated!

God bless!

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Either Gballz or Juggling Thingies. Search them on the net.

They in my opinion make the best juggling balls. I am a picky juggler though, I have to have an exact weight and softness and they can supply me with this.

Also depends if you like hard bouncy balls, or hard balls (no bounce) or soft balls.

James
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mark1991
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Hi there,

Thanks for those two options James! They both look like really good sources and I will follow them up.

However, I would love to hear other suggestions. Obviously, I'm looking for balls that are small enough to go to five and six balls as I have just cracked five balls myself.

Any more advice?

God bless!

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Quick query. When you say you have cracked 5 balls you mean what?

Can you run it indefinately now? ie: continue the pattern with no drops until you decide to stop?

My advice, don't even attempt to juggle 6 balls until.

1. You can easily run 3 balls in each hand. indefinately or for at least 50 throws
2. You can do 5 ball tricks including under the leg, fountain, reverse cascade etc.

Honestly mate, juggling isn't about, "oh I can do 5 now lets do six, seven, eight" and so on.

Work on tricks with 3, 4 and 5 balls before attempting anything else.

I juggled for 5 years before I learnt 6/7 balls. Concentrate on the basics, then these things (6, 7 balls etc) will be much easier.

Its like a magic trick, just cause you can make a dove disapear, doesn't mean you are going to go straight to a car dissapearing. you would work on the performance, the skills, the trick.

Same with Juggling Mate.

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CDS
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Gballz are the only ones I buy now... they maybe able to make a
custom size for you…

http://www.gballz.com

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I practice (I can only 3 ball at the minute...) using a juggling ball, a cricket ball and a really light sponge ball. They're all about the same size but help get a feel for different weights.
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I have Dube, and Fergie bean bags, but the Gballz look good too.

There are hundreds of three ball tricks that an audience will be impressed with, but Joe public can't tell if you have three, four, five or six balls, so unless you are trying to impress other jugglers the numbers game may not be the right way to go. Most serious jugglers say "I practice five to make my three stronger"
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mark1991
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Hi there,

Thanks for all the input guys! I will now try to answer your queries.

Firstly, James - I can't run the five ball cascade non-stop until I decide to stop. What I meant was that I have cracked the pattern - which I have - and I now need to work on getting it more continuous. Its a bit like when you first start three balls, you have to spend a few weeks getting it down until you can do it non-stop.

You also mentioned about six ball juggling - I do not intend to start learning 6 ball juggling for at least another year (although, for the record, I can do three in one hand which I am working on). The reason I want to buy six is simply because I am following the advice Charlie Dancey gives in his books that you should buy one more object than you can juggle. This is both for the ability to increase the number and also to decrease the time it takes for them to wear out.

Al - I understand what you are saying about joe public not knowing the difference between three or four balls etc. and I fully agree! I work on my tricks more than I work on my numbers to be honest, and I know that for performance tricks are better at this stage. But what you have to understand is that, at the minute, I juggle for fun - nothing more. I work a bit of basic three ball juggling into my act I do at kids parties, but that's it. My desire to learn more balls, new tricks and generally improve is just based on my own enjoyment. I enjoy practicing very much, and I just want to improve!

I hope this has cleared a few things up for you, and I thank you for all your help and advice on which balls are best. It is my birthday in the Summer, you see, so I need to start thinking about it now!

Thanks again and I hope to see a few more responses!

God bless!

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What's the best way (very subjective I know) to learn 4 ball cascade? I keep dropping the balls.....damn gravity!
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Four balls, and the cascade are two different animals. The cascade can only be done with an odd number 3, 5, or 7 balls.

The best way to learn four balls is to get VERY good with your left hand, and it will just happen for you.
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Or if like me your left handed...right handed Smile


Hah, showing my ignorance there Smile So how do you adapt from 3 to 5 ball cascade? Do 2 lots of two ball with both hands and then through one across each time?
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Hi there,

Five ball cascade is like three ball cascade with every throw crossing hands. However, it is quite a bit faster, higher and much, much harder!

To build up to this, try doing some three ball flashes with all three balls going up in the air before the catch!

Hope this helps!

God bless!

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Hey, Mark...

Just realised were not that far apart, geographically. I only live in Quadring...
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Mark
There is the club passing partner you've been looking for.
HAVE FUN
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Haha, don't know of any clubs in my area Smile
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Sim,

The purest pattern for 4 balls is juggled in what's known as a fountain. Basically you juggle 2 in one hand at the same time as juggling 2 in the other hand. This is the same pattern for 6 (three in each hand), 8 (four in each hand) and 10 (five in each hand).

If you want to juggle odd numbers then you'll need to do the cascade as Al said earlier.

If you want to know about juggling clubs in your area (ie, somewhere to go practice juggling and learn from other jugglers) then check out http://www.jugglingdb.com

I think Al was refering to the juggling props known as clubs that are often passed between two or more jugglers. Its great fun and you really should try it if you haven't already.

Now, back to the topic.....

Mark, I use the same sized juggling balls for 5,6 and 7 as I do for 3 and 4 balls.

I actually really like Beard's Absolute 4-Panel Juggling Bags ( http://www.beard.co.uk/product_view.php?product=57 ).

They are similar to the Babache Skwosh Ball ( http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/kolist/1/......2003.htm ) only a little cheaper and made right here in the UK... always nice to support local producers, and Greg's a nice bloke too Smile

I don't think there's any need to go down to a smaller ball until you start playing with 8+ balls.

Even then I can juggle 4 of the Beard balls mentioned above in one hand with no major problems (apart from its really hard!).

So maybe you'd not need to reduce the size of the ball until you're holding 5 or more in one hand, so anything above 9.

Picking up on learning numbers, I learnt 5 and 7 cascade by doing snakes first. 3 ball snake for learning 5 and 4 ball snake for learning 7.

I totally agree with your choice of material... Dancey's book is awsome!! If you do clubs you should definately get his compendium too. What's nice is that the books cross reference between eachother.

Anyway I hope this helps... now to go look at those balls others have suggested I think I might treat myself after the summer season to some new toys Smile
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Cheers Roslyn, great advice
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Just had a look at the gballz site.... are they as nice as they look??

'Cos if they are I think I'll be getting me some Smile
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Hi there,

Which of the two types of GBALLZ do you recommend? The Elite or Ultrasuede?

Based on looks, I would probably go for Elite, but does it matter functionally?

God bless!

Magical Mark Watson
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"Club passing" is when two or more people pass six or more Indian clubs with and to each other.
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