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victorkent
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What do you think about stuff out of the mouth tricks? (Mouth coils, sponge balls, etc.) Should they be avoided? I heard about a spectator bringing up cookies when she saw a guy do the mouth coils. What other stuff out of the mouth is there?
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Cards, maybe?
If a magician is not intending to "trick" a spectator, why is every "trick" called a magic "trick"?
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Not a great idea for kids in my opinion. They are very impressionable, and because you are so super cool (you hope) some of them will try to copy you. This could have some pretty dire consequences for the youngsters in question.

If you are not performing for the little ones then the possibilites are endless. Cards, coins, coils, sponge balls, billiard balls, things tied to string, rope etc.
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I perform a card from mouth trick, usually only for children aged 8 or over. They might try and copy me. It is only playing cards however, not cigarettes or fire.

I never do it for younger children. They can't remember a selected card anyway.
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No-no for children. Also unhygienic in these politically correct days when even your dentist dresses like a brain surgeon to avoid your bodily fluids! Had a quick look at your website Victor and note you work standing in 3 feet of water in a dinner suit— crazy man! Seriously though it's one of the best effects I've ever seen.

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Just seen your website as well Victor, really good. But very annoying with all the pop up windows.
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The only "from mouth" routine I do is a comedy "gum stretching" contest (utilizing the fake gum coils) with me and the kid. Since gum is supposed to be put in the mouth, it's all right. I always ask two questions before okaying an assistant... 1— "Do you like to chew gum?" and 2— "Are you allowed to have gum with sugar in it?" After that ... it's on. For those of you who know nothing about the gum coils, let's keep it that way, and for those of you who do ... stop using it! I wanna have 'em all to myself.

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HI Victor,
I see what Billy means about the pop ups on your website. This must lose you some traffic particularly from corporate clients.
Don't you have any other free webspace that you can use? Maybe some your ISP gives?
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Anything from the mouth?

Absolutely not!

It's simply bad theatre, as well as generally disgusting to the audience (although they may not tell you that).

And that covers the mis-named mouth coils, cards, gum, or just about anything else that either belongs inside or outside the mouth (but not both!).

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I think cards from the mouth is a great way to end a routine... Jeff McBride uses it, and I have been using it as a closing trick. I find that audience members come up to me after the show and mention it as a brilliant trick. I often hear closer audience members gasp with amazement. I highly recommend it! Smile
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On 2003-01-28 07:12, Peter Marucci wrote:
Anything from the mouth?

Absolutely not!

...generally disgusting...Smile
I strongly agree Peter. And remember what can happen if a child tries to do the same. You don't want to be the reason a child chokes.

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Boy, have you guys opened a can of worms with this thread.

This debate will go on forever.
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Balloonists will be out of business next week if this "trusim" leaks out!

Next thing you know, you'll see someone take a 260 pencil balloon through their nose and out their mouth or put a nail in their tongue. Who knows maybe tongue piercing came from a person who saw a side show entertainer when they were a child.

The Funny Paper magazine has a version of fear factor game listed this month (May/June 2003). Put puff rice in water and have the kids put their face in it and come out with maggots on the face, and place chocolate pudding in a clean diaper and have the kids lick it off ... gross... Funny to watch, but gross.

Kids reaction ... cool! And there are more volunteers to do this than one can imagine. Are we sick here in America, well we can say we have a diverse sense of humor!
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Lovely ideas Dennis, especially the used diaper (nappy) one. I am also thinking of introducing the "sucking diarrhoea through a sweaty sock" routine as well. Or maybe inviting kids to 'dip' into "Grandad's Spitoon". (After I've won the lottery that is!)

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On 2003-05-14 23:15, Darkwing wrote:
Boy, have you guys opened a can of worms with this thread.

This debate will go on forever.
Please, no canned worms from the mouth! Some of these other ideas already have me gagging... Smile Smile

I think I'll stick with "tongue from mouth", only I'll only stick it out, not take it out all the way!

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I know a magician who has children stuff 3-4 pieces of tissue paper IN their mouths as part of a do-as-I-do routine. In the midst of this, they are dancing around to music. He even has them drink a swallow of water at one point.

I've seen him perform this with children and adults. It's one of his favorite routines because it is highly visual, silly, and the dancing gets everyone worked up. The audiences here just eat it up (pun intended). If he only has 10 minutes, this is the trick he will do because it gets such overwhelmingly positive responses.

That being said, I'm just waiting for the day when he has to work the heimlich maneuver into the act. I seem to be the only one concerned about this. I've mentioned it to him, and he just crosses his fingers. Does this seem like a bad idea to anyone else?
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it sounds very stupid and irresponsible to me. As an parent I spent a lot of time teaching my kids not to put stuff in their mouths. If he's stupid enough to do this, I bet he's stupid enough to do it without proper publivc liability insurance. One day he'll have do do not only the heimlich maneuver, but hand over the keys to his house and car as well.
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Odd. . . I've always found Card to Mouth disgusting.
But I regularly use mouth coils with kids (aged 8 and up). It has great shock and laugh value. I get great reactions when I hand the end out to a spectator and they repel in disgust.

There are a lot of effects (and props) that I'd never use with younger kids. I get nervous about any type of penetration effects or rope tricks with pre-schoolers or primary grade children.

But if an eight- to twelve-year-old tries choking himself with paper after seeing me use a mouth coil. . . well, it's just not gonna happen except with "special needs" children for whom I'd tailor my effects differently anyhow.
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I don't do any effects where I have to put something in my mouth. I use live animals in my show, so I wouldn't want to handle an animal and then put my hands in my mouth.

Also, what about shaking someone's hand? I wouldn't want to shake hands with someone and then put my hand in my mouth....and I'm sure they wouldn't want to shake hands with me after I put my hand in my mouth.

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Just because they call it a mouth coil doesn't mean you can't pull it out of a closed fist instead.

Speaking of hygiene, I forget who is was (Ammar???) who advised me - and I will pass it along - esp with the shortage of flu vaccine this year:

WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER EVERY SHOW as soon as you can - you've got the collective germs of 20-30 little snotty kids on your hands, do you really want to wipe your eye, or put something in your mouth, before you do? I found that I got a LOT fewer colds when I stopped having the crowd of kids BLOW on my hand to make the (thumbtip) silk vanish, and when I quit (with Axtell's Drawing Board Birthday Cake routine) saying "Now let's all see if we can blow the candles out!"
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