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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
Speaking of manipulation cards does anyone have extensive list of manipulation cards and where to get them? I’ve been using the Bee cards but even with the ruler scrap I can only successfully BP about 20. Too thick. I don’t like the bridge size card (Norm Neilson, Burtons, etc.)
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graywolf Special user South carolina 631 Posts |
Japanese MAGIC CARDS so thin 52=26..Cordially, Howard
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
Thanks howard, who sells them?
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3mjo New user Germany 20 Posts |
You can get nearly every manipulation cards on the market here:
http://www.cards4magic.co.uk/acatalog/Ma......rds.html |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Thanks for the link, 3mojo. I have been looking for that deck too.
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gumbimagic Veteran user Too busy performing to have more than 311 Posts |
If you watch the McBride DVDs he only BPs around 20 at a time and is just continually stealing cards. I have found that the manipulation decks don't handle very nicely. I don't like how the manipulation cards fan. The ruler thing is just to make them more flexible not to make the cards thinner in any significant manner. The manipulation deck from Japan on the link does look interesting though. If they are air cushioned they might be a good option for being able to BP more cards and still get the good traits for fanning. I doubt they are air cushioned for only a 9mm thick deck. I do agree that the bridge size cards are not good for me. I tried them to start with then moved to the poker sized decks.
I have all the decks on the link except for the Julia Chen, Lee Eun Gyeol(I do have Marvey's that are them same), and the deck from Japan. I stick with standard Bikes or Bee. I have not found that I need to BP more than 20 cards at a time. |
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
For me, manipulation cards work great right out of the pack (except I don't like bridge size)but after awhile they stick and the fans look sloppy. I'm guessing the oil and other funk from my hands get on the cards. I scrape my Bee decks with a metal 6 inch carpenters T-square which works really well.
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
I would agree that bridge size cards are not many's favorite. And many prefer poker size cards due to hand sizes. As to the choice of cards, BEE is still the favorite. The key lies in practising and the more you put work into your routine you will find your fingers strengthened as well.
I have been practising with BEE and find myself being able to BP 52 cards and produce them singly. Of course, in my own act I don't BP that many, around 30+ cards only. The more you practise the better your fingers will be, in terms of strength and power. I have used all kinds of manipulation cards and find BEE to be my final choice too. |
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DoveLover New user 55 Posts |
I don't recommend using Julia Chen's black-white cards to BP because the audience can see something white and black, especially when the stage curtain is not black.
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kregg Inner circle 1950 Posts |
I've never found one all purpose card. I use Neilson's cards for some card work and the stiffest cards when I need a lot of spring. I don't think the audience was ever aware that I worked in a different deck.
POOF!
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
People may find this funny but I still use standard poker size bicycle decks. lol I guess the reason is that I started and learned using them because that is what I had at the time and because I learned how to break in the cards the proper way, I can get them to work just fine for my needs. Another reason was that I liked to show the fronts and backs of the cards and I used to do a lot of transitional effects into jumbo cards. When I did this, I wanted the cards to match.
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
The bikes fan well too.
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
I do like using bridge size for the cards from mouth. I've cut myself using Bee's for the effect.
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chrisgali Regular user 161 Posts |
Hey
I`m also using Bees, I have tried some others like Juliana Chens or Nielsen's cards, but I cant fan them out very well! I use Bees, can Backpalm about 20 cards, and that's enough, in my act there is no need to bp more!! nice greets! |
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WizardsInn New user United States 16 Posts |
Shoot Ogawa's company in Japan is making great card.
It is not only good for Manipulation but also very nice fan card. It is poker size and very thin. Made from Paper and once you try it, you will love it. It is 52 cards full deck size plus two jokers and one blank face. You can find at Hollywood magic and Shoot Ogawa's lectures only. I hope you have chance to see it. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Is this a fanning deck? How's the design and colors?
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Koji Takada Regular user Tokyo, Japan 146 Posts |
Hi James san
You can find this design in WIZARDS-INN Japan http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~youki/pict/mirion1.jpg Koji |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Hello Koji san,
I am a fanning card manipulator and would like to know where I can buy them. In addition I collect all kinds of fanning cards too. The design of the cards is nice. How thin are the cards? Are they used only for fanning? Or dual purpose - fanning and manipulation as well? Thanks |
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WizardsInn New user United States 16 Posts |
It is for a dual purpose.
You can buy it from Shoot or at the Hollywood Magic. |
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
Not sure how good those would be for BP'ing.
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