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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
Could we start a comprehensive list of existing and recognised cups and balls routine? E.g Dai Vernon's routine and what's next?
Let's list down here  1) Dai Vernon's cups and balls routine  source ? 2) ? 3) ? If the source of the routine is also available, I believe it would be be great to include in the list too. I believe this thread would be useful reference for cups and balls lovers. Thanks in advance for the participation. 

Tom G Inner circle 2735 Posts 
I think it might be close to duplicationg all of Lint's fine work.


JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
I was just thinking of having the routines only. I do not mean to duplicate Lint's wonderful work. We can ignore the books or sources.
Basically I am trying to log down existing cups and balls act or routines, whether they are published or not. I have just ammended the original post so it would not duplicate Lint's work. Thanks for your thoughts. Ammended post ... Could we start a comprehensive list of existing and recognised cups and balls routine? E.g Dai Vernon's routine and how many cups were used in their routine? Let's list down here  1) Dai Vernon's cups and balls routine  3 cups 2) ? 3) ? I believe this thread would be useful reference for cups and balls lovers. Thanks in advance for the participation. 

Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3627 Posts 
Ammars 3 cups
tommy wonders 2 cups paul gertner 3 cups carl andrews  2 cups those are the only ones I know =) 

JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
Updating the list ...
1) Dai Vernon's routine  3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine  2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine  3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine  3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine  3 cups 6) ? 7) ? 

JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
Thanks, Joshua
Here's the updated list with your input ... 1) Dai Vernon's routine  3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine  2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine  3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine  3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine  3 cups 6) Paul Gertner  3 cups 7) Carl Andrews  2 cups 8) Gazzo  3 cups 9) Charlie Miller  3 cups 10) ? 

Tom Fenton Inner circle Leeds, UK (but I'm Scottish) 1469 Posts 
David Williamson  2 cups
Al Schneider's Street Cups  3 cups Schneider's Classic Cups  3 cups
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
Thanks, Coachman.
Here's the updated list ... 1) Dai Vernon's routine  3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine  2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine  3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine  3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine  3 cups 6) Paul Gertner  3 cups 7) Carl Andrews  2 cups 8) Gazzo  3 cups 9) Charlie Miller  3 cups 10) Jason Latimer  3 cups 11) David Williamson  2 cups 12) Al Schneider's Street Cups  3 cups 13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups  3 cups 14) ? 

walid ahumada Special user sinaloa, mexico 892 Posts 
8) gazzo3 cups 1 hat
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts 
David Regal  6 cups
I may be wrong but didn't Frank Garcia have a cups and balls routine as well? Kent
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
Thanks, Walid Ahumada.
More updates ... 1) Dai Vernon's routine  3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine  2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine  3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine  3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine  3 cups 6) Paul Gertner  3 cups 7) Carl Andrews  2 cups 8) Gazzo  3 cups + 1 hat 9) Charlie Miller  3 cups 10) Jason Latimer  3 cups 11) David Williamson  2 cups 12) Al Schneider's Street Cups  3 cups 13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups  3 cups 14) Gary Ouellet  2 cups 15) Dennis Loomis  3 cups 16) ? 

JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11209 Posts 
Thanks, Kent, your info has just been updated.
More updates ... 1) Dai Vernon's routine  3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine  2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine  3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine  3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine  3 cups 6) Paul Gertner  3 cups 7) Carl Andrews  2 cups 8) Gazzo  3 cups + 1 hat 9) Charlie Miller  3 cups 10) Jason Latimer  3 cups 11) David Williamson  2 cups 12) Al Schneider's Street Cups  3 cups 13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups  3 cups 14) Gary Ouellet  2 cups 15) Dennis Loomis  3 cups 16) David Regal  6 cups 17) ? 

walid ahumada Special user sinaloa, mexico 892 Posts 
17)Rene lavand 1 CUP
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1302 Posts 
Frank Garcia  3 cups Several different routines
Dai Vernon  One cup routine with Dollar Bills Larry Jennings 3 cup routine and 1 cup routines John Carney  Several different three cup routines and 1 one cup routine Robert White  3 cup routine 

Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1302 Posts 
Charlie Miller  Too numerous to mention 3 cup routines and Indian Cups and balls
Pete Biro  Various as well Johnny Thomnpson  3 cup routine Mike Rogers  3 cup routine Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder)  Solid Can routine Fred Caps  3 cups Jim Cellini  3 cups 

Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24274 Posts 
Aldo Colombini has published several different routines for three cups.
John Mendoza has two three cup routines on one of his DVD's. There is the Guyot routine. There is the Ozanam routine. There is the Hocus Pocus Jr. routine from the first edition. There is the expanded Hocus Pocus Jr. routine from the second edition.
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Richard Evans Inner circle 1377 Posts 
A few more, including some blasts from the past 
John Ramsay Johnny Paul Alex Elmsley Jim Ryan Laurie Ireland Charles Burton Ken Brooke Joe Berg Milton Kort Rafael Benatar Burtini John Platt Manuel Muerte Tom Mullica Dan Fleshman Eddie Joseph
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24274 Posts 
Eddie Joseph would have to be in there, somewhere, but there are a couple of factors to consider with his work. One is that he often improvised his routine. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of the trick, and published many different routines.
The other is one I cannot confirm, but I have been told that Eddie's work with the cups and balls was somewhat disorganized.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com 

lint Special user Concord, CA 959 Posts 
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On 20070607 10:20, Bill Palmer wrote: just take a look at any of his books! they trail off, jump around. its like he was just writing from his stream of thought! Also, some of his ideas on cup technique are clearly ideas that don't appear to have been backed up with much thought! I wish someone would publish an "Annotated Eddie Joseph". bosco
"There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip..." English Proverb


Julie Inner circle 3456 Posts 
I would also include John Mendoza's routine(s) for the combo cups (3 cup set).
Julie 

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