Wow that is a lot of input. Thanks everyone.

More updates on the list ...

1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups
2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups
3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups
4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups
5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups
6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups
7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups
8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat
9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups
10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups
11) David Williamson - 2 cups
12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups
13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups
14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups
15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups
16) David Regal - 6 cups
17) Rene lavand - 1 cup
18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups
19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills
20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines
21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
22) Robert White - 3 cups
23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine
24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls
25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine
27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine
28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine
29) Fred Caps - 3 cups
30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups
31) John Mendoza - 3 cups

May I know how many cups these greats uses in their routines?

John Ramsay
Johnny Paul
Alex Elmsley
Jim Ryan
Laurie Ireland
Charles Burton
Ken Brooke
Joe Berg
Milton Kort
Rafael Benatar
Burtini
John Platt
Manuel Muerte
Tom Mullica
Dan Fleshman
Eddie Joseph

Johnny paul 3 cups
rafael benatar 3 cups

I have a 2 cup routine.

Elmsley, Fleshman, Brooke, Johnny Paul are 3 cups.

Thanks, walid ahumada and Scott F. Guinn for your input.


More updates ...

1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups
2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups
3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups
4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups
5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups
6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups
7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups
8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat
9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups
10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups
11) David Williamson - 2 cups
12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups
13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups
14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups
15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups
16) David Regal - 6 cups
17) Rene lavand - 1 cup
18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups
19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills
20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines
21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
22) Robert White - 3 cups
23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine
24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls
25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine
27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine
28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine
29) Fred Caps - 3 cups
30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups
31) John Mendoza - 3 cups
32) Johnny Paul - 3 cups
33) Rafael Benatar - 3 cups
34) Alex Emsley - 3 cups
35) Dan Fleshman - 3 cups
36) Ken Brooke - 3 cups
37) Scott F. Guinn - 2 cups

How about ...

John Ramsay
Jim Ryan
Laurie Ireland
Charles Burton
Joe Berg
Milton Kort
Burtini
John Platt
Manuel Muerte
Tom Mullica
Eddie Joseph
Guyot
Ozanam

How many cups do they use?

Penn and Teller 3 Cups 4 hands

Laurie Ireland - 3 cups
Joe Berg - 3 cups
Kort - 2 cups and 3 cups routines
Platt - 3 cups and indian cups
Muerte - 3 cups
Mullica - 3 cup routine
Guyot - 3 cups
Flicking Fingers - 2 cups
John Ramsey - 3 cups and 3 Ice Cream Containers
Houdini - 3 cups

Thanks, Payne and Mobius. Your input is greatly appreciated.

Here's the updated list again ...

1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups
2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups
3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups
4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups
5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups
6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups
7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups
8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat
9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups
10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups
11) David Williamson - 2 cups
12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups
13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups
14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups
15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups
16) David Regal - 6 cups
17) Rene lavand - 1 cup
18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups
19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills
20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines
21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
22) Robert White - 3 cups
23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine
24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls
25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine
27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine
28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine
29) Fred Kaps - 3 cups
30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups
31) John Mendoza - 3 cups
32) Johnny Paul - 3 cups
33) Rafael Benatar - 3 cups
34) Alex Emsley - 3 cups
35) Dan Fleshman - 3 cups
36) Ken Brooke - 3 cups
37) Scott F. Guinn - 2 cups
38) John Ramsey - 3 cups & 3 Ice cream containers
39) Penn and Teller - 3 Cups 4 hands
40) Laurie Ireland - 3 cups
41) Joe Berg - 3 cups
42) Milton Kort - 2 & 3 cups
43) John Platt - 3 cups and Indian cups
44) Manuel Muerte - 3 cups
45) Tom Mullica - 3 cups
46) Guyot - 3 cups
47) Flicking Fingers - 3 cups
48) Houdini - 3 cups

That leaves ...

Jim Ryan
Charles Burton
Burtini
Eddie Joseph
Ozanam

Any one knows how many cups they used in their routine?

A few more names came to my mind ...

Tim Ellis
Paul Daniels
Albert Goshman
Lewis Ganson
Max Malini
Bill Palmer
Jonathan Townsend

Any other names we can add to the list?

How about cups and balls worker from other countries? Any ideas?

Thanks for the participation. I believe the list would be very helpful to many people.

Jim Ryan -- three cups
Charles Bertram -- three cups
Burtini -- three cups
Eddie Joseph -- three cups (usually)
Ozanam -- three cups
Tim Ellis -- two cups and a juke box
Paul Daniels -- one cup
Albert Goshman -- don't know
Lewis Ganson -- probably three cups
Max Malini -- three cups
Bill Palmer -- one cup (most of the time)
Jonathan Townsend -- ?

Any supporting info on this entry? As a man working on a similar goal any info would be appreciated.

-todd

Abraham Bongers also had a three cup routine.

Manuel Muerte -- one cup.

James

Sorry, I was a bit slow replying to my suggestions - but it looks like the guys have filled in all the gaps. There's an error in #38: John Ramsay's famous routine was with just 2 ice cream cups. He also published a one-cup routine using an 'Indian' cup.

A few more:

Gary Kurtz - 3 cups
John Bannon - 3 cups
Steve Draun - 3 cups
Ed Marlo - 3 cups

We should add Andy Comic...very entertaining routine with elements of both two-ball and three-ball handling.

Best regards,
Glenn Godsey

Does the 3 cup routine published in Mark Wilson's book count?

I see Jos Berna's Solid Can routine is listed; in this case, let's also include the similar solid can routines published by Paul Harris and Michael Ammar.

I believe Jay Sankey also had a C&B routine published in Sankey Pankey; haven't read it so don't know how many cups it involved, sorry.

Peter Wardell teaches a street cups routine - with, of course, similarity to Gazzo's, on DVD.

David Regal also has a one cup routine in print.

Cheers.

That's Bema, not Berma. Jos Bema is Jos Bemelman, AKA Tommy Wonder.

It would be good to track down who originated the solid can routine, because they are all actually fairly similar, except for Lonnie Chevrie's, in which the ball used ends up inside the can.

*sorry about that, Bill. Knew it was TW's name, but didn't know it was short for Bemelman. Good to know, thanks.

I read that the solid can routine was a PH idea, somewhere. Not 100%, though.

It should it is a great little routine. the first one I learned. Also, anyone looking to simply (yet accurately) talk about cups history in their routine should read Mr. Wilsons intro to the cups & balls. it is historically accurate and well written.



this is a 3 cup routine with a 4th cup produced as part of the finale.

-todd