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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-08 21:15, Bill Palmer wrote: Thanks, Bill. I'll get those books. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-08 23:39, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Jonathan, the purpose of this list is to honor, respect and appreciate ALL (and that includes you) cups and balls workers/lovers. Your knowledge, love and dedication to the art of cups and balls deserve a place in this current work. It is an honor to have you in the list. I'll contact you personally for more info on your work. This list is only the beginning. I will be working on the materials with supporting documents and interviews and have them published on my website/book later on. I will be contacting more members in this forum soon on their work in cups and balls, and have their name in this list. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-09 00:42, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Jonathan, how many flower pots does Ian Adair uses for his routine? Which book is this routine in? I would like to get my hands on that book too. Thanks for the input. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
More updates on the list ...
1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups 6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups 7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups 8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat 9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups 10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups 11) David Williamson - 2 cups 12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups 13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups 14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups 15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups 16) David Regal - 6 cups 17) Rene lavand - 1 cup 18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups 19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills 20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines 21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine 22) Robert White - 3 cups 23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine 24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls 25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine 26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine 27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine 28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine 29) Fred Kaps - 3 cups 30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups 31) John Mendoza - 3 cups 32) Johnny Paul - 3 cups 33) Rafael Benatar - 3 cups 34) Alex Emsley - 3 cups 35) Dan Fleshman - 3 cups 36) Ken Brooke - 3 cups 37) Scott F. Guinn - 2 cups 38) John Ramsey - 2 Ice cream containers (ammended) 39) Penn and Teller - 3 Cups 4 hands 40) Laurie Ireland - 3 cups 41) Joe Berg - 3 cups 42) Milton Kort - 2 & 3 cups 43) John Platt - 3 cups and Indian cups 44) Manuel Muerte - 3 cups 45) Tom Mullica - 3 cups 46) Guyot - 3 cups 47) Flicking Fingers - 3 cups 48) Houdini - 3 cups 49) Mark Wilson - 3 Cups 50) Eric DeCamps - 3 cups 51) John George - 3 cups 52) Ross Bertram - 3 cups 53) J.N. Hofzinser - 2 cups & a hat 54) Bob Farmer - 3 cups and one ball 55) Jay Sankey - 3 cups with a 4th cup produced as part of the finale 56) Andy Comic - 3 cups 57) Gary Kurtz - 3 cups 58) John Bannon - 3 cups 59) Steve Draun - 3 cups 60) Ed Marlo - 3 cups 61) Abraham Bongers - 3 cups 62) Manuel Muerte - 1 cup 63) Jim Ryan - 3 cups 64) Charles Bertram - 3 cups 65) Burtini - 3 cups 66) Eddie Joseph - 3 cups (usually) 67) Ozanam - 3 cups 68) Tim Ellis - 2 cups and a juke box 69) Paul Daniels - 1 cup 70) Lewis Ganson - 3 cups 71) Max Malini - 3 cups 72) Bill Palmer -- 1 cup (most of the time) 73) Robert-Houdin - 3 cups 74) Professor Hoffmann - 3 cups 75) Jack Bateman - 3 cup - "Rub-A-Dub-Dub" routine 76) Ian Adair - flower pots and "seeds" routine 77) Dick Williams - 3 cups (with an audience member for stage) |
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ChristopherM Special user UK 844 Posts |
I remember hearing that Shawn Farquhar has a 3 cup routine, with solid-cups ending.
James - David Regal put a one cup routine in print, too. Enjoying seeing the list take shape |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
I've seen Shawn's routine. It's a real fooler. It is not in print.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-09 10:32, ChristopherM wrote: Christopher, thanks for the input. I will add David Regal's 1 cup routine to the list as well as Shawn Farquhar. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
More updates on the list ...
1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups 2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups 3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups 4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups 5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups 6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups 7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups 8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat 9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups 10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups 11) David Williamson - 2 cups 12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups 13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups 14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups 15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups 16) David Regal - 6 cups and 1 cup routine 17) Rene lavand - 1 cup 18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups 19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills 20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines 21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine 22) Robert White - 3 cups 23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine 24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls 25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine 26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine 27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine 28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine 29) Fred Kaps - 3 cups 30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups 31) John Mendoza - 3 cups 32) Johnny Paul - 3 cups 33) Rafael Benatar - 3 cups 34) Alex Emsley - 3 cups 35) Dan Fleshman - 3 cups 36) Ken Brooke - 3 cups 37) Scott F. Guinn - 2 cups 38) John Ramsey - 2 Ice cream containers (ammended) 39) Penn and Teller - 3 Cups 4 hands 40) Laurie Ireland - 3 cups 41) Joe Berg - 3 cups 42) Milton Kort - 2 & 3 cups 43) John Platt - 3 cups and Indian cups 44) Manuel Muerte - 3 cups 45) Tom Mullica - 3 cups 46) Guyot - 3 cups 47) Flicking Fingers - 3 cups 48) Houdini - 3 cups 49) Mark Wilson - 3 Cups 50) Eric DeCamps - 3 cups 51) John George - 3 cups 52) Ross Bertram - 3 cups 53) J.N. Hofzinser - 2 cups & a hat 54) Bob Farmer - 3 cups and one ball 55) Jay Sankey - 3 cups with a 4th cup produced as part of the finale 56) Andy Comic - 3 cups 57) Gary Kurtz - 3 cups 58) John Bannon - 3 cups 59) Steve Draun - 3 cups 60) Ed Marlo - 3 cups 61) Abraham Bongers - 3 cups 62) Manuel Muerte - 1 cup 63) Jim Ryan - 3 cups 64) Charles Bertram - 3 cups 65) Burtini - 3 cups 66) Eddie Joseph - 3 cups (usually) 67) Ozanam - 3 cups 68) Tim Ellis - 2 cups and a juke box 69) Paul Daniels - 1 cup 70) Lewis Ganson - 3 cups 71) Max Malini - 3 cups 72) Bill Palmer -- 1 cup (most of the time) 73) Robert-Houdin - 3 cups 74) Professor Hoffmann - 3 cups 75) Jack Bateman - 3 cup - "Rub-A-Dub-Dub" routine 76) Ian Adair - flower pots and "seeds" routine 77) Dick Williams - 3 cups (with an audience member for stage) 78) Shawn Farquhar - 3 cups with solid-cups ending |
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Chris Becker Veteran user New York, NY 371 Posts |
I'm working on a seven cups routine.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
I did a twelve cup routine for our magic club one evening. I had twelve final loads -- the whole bit. They didn't know it was a routine until it was over.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
How could we forget the late great Bob Read's Penultimate Cups & Balls Routine.
AND.... Henri Decremps' routine Edwin Sachs' routine Bosco's routine (as described by Robert-Houdin/Hoffman) Conus' routine (ditto) Jean Hugard's routine Ellis Stanyon's routines Dr. Daly's cups & balls routine O.W. Meyer's routine Hans Trixer's routine Jim Merlini's routine Edward Browne's routine Indian Cups & Balls routine by Rinkhausen The Cups & Cubes by Ron Jamison Bill Tarr's Cups & Balls routine Tom Osborne (numerous routines). Hope this helps, James. I can give you the bibliographical references for the routines listed above if you need them. Fortasse |
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Tablic New user 100 Posts |
How about Ricky Jay's routine? Or is his one of another person's whose name is already on the list?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
There is Kurt Ehrler's routine -- 3 cups (combo cup routine)
There are several routines by Bruno Hennig (Joro). There is one three cup routine, a one cup routine and a routine with a bell.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-09 23:05, fortasse wrote: Just PMed you, Fortasse. By the way how many cups are used in the routines above? |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-09 23:27, Tablic wrote: Thanks, Tablic for your input. May I know how many cups did Ricky Jay use for his routine? |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-06-09 20:21, Bill Palmer wrote: Bill, are you still doing the 12 cups routine now? Which cups did you use, among the hundreds you have, for this 12 cups routine? Are you using one cup each from each set in your collection? Just curious |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
I did this routine about 3 years ago for IBM Ring 39. I used four sets of mini cups, the Riser cups, the Van Dokkum cups, the Ravel mini cups and the Ickle Pickle mini cups which looked like the Ravel cups.
I had a close-up mat that was made from automobile headliner material -- about 36 inches by 24 inches. The club thought it was just a demonstration of the different styles of mini cups, so it made my task easier. I started with each set in its drawstring bag, with a setup like you find in Alex Elmsley's book for the salt load, so I was working one ahead. I had the various load balls in each of my jacket pockets, so I could get to them in the natural handling of the cups, etc. I demonstrated one set, and the size of load it took, then moved it to the front right corner of the mat, all three cups mouth down, and put a load ball on top of the center cup. I did the same thing with the second set, but put it at the front left corner of the mat. The third set went to the right rear corner of the mat, and the last set went to the left rear corner of the mat. Then I said, "Remember, this set will work with handballs (and revealed that there were three handballs under that set), this set works with golf balls (revealing the golf balls), this set with miniature tennis balls (revealing those), and this set with smaller tennis balls (revealing those)." Due to the nature of the routine, I had ample time to get loads and put them into the cups. The final display had four sets of mini cups across the front edge of the mat. Eric Falconer mentions it here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=3904092
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Terry Holley Inner circle 1805 Posts |
Going through my collection tonight I came across the following which I don't believe have been mentioned.
Senor Mardo - 1 cup, 2 cups and 3 cups Jimmy Lake - 3 cups Richard Kaufman - 3 cups Randy Wakeman - 3 cups Hal Levy - 3 different style cups and 3 different colored balls Nick Trost - 3 cups Irv Weiner - 3 cups S. Leo Horowitz (Mohammed Bey) - 3 cups Let me call your attention to a typo: Correct spelling is "John Ramsay". Terry
Co-author with illusionist Andre' Kole of "Astrology and Psychic Phenomena."
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
Henry Holava did a three cup routine with square sponges.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
Speaking of C&B routines, are there any good silent (i/e. non-patter)routines?
Fortasse |
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