Thanks, Bill. I'll get those books.

Jonathan, the purpose of this list is to honor, respect and appreciate ALL (and that includes you) cups and balls workers/lovers. Your knowledge, love and dedication to the art of cups and balls deserve a place in this current work. It is an honor to have you in the list. I'll contact you personally for more info on your work.

This list is only the beginning. I will be working on the materials with supporting documents and interviews and have them published on my website/book later on.

I will be contacting more members in this forum soon on their work in cups and balls, and have their name in this list.

Jonathan, how many flower pots does Ian Adair uses for his routine? Which book is this routine in? I would like to get my hands on that book too.

Thanks for the input.

More updates on the list ...

1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups
2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups
3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups
4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups
5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups
6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups
7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups
8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat
9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups
10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups
11) David Williamson - 2 cups
12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups
13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups
14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups
15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups
16) David Regal - 6 cups
17) Rene lavand - 1 cup
18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups
19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills
20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines
21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
22) Robert White - 3 cups
23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine
24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls
25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine
27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine
28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine
29) Fred Kaps - 3 cups
30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups
31) John Mendoza - 3 cups
32) Johnny Paul - 3 cups
33) Rafael Benatar - 3 cups
34) Alex Emsley - 3 cups
35) Dan Fleshman - 3 cups
36) Ken Brooke - 3 cups
37) Scott F. Guinn - 2 cups
38) John Ramsey - 2 Ice cream containers (ammended)
39) Penn and Teller - 3 Cups 4 hands
40) Laurie Ireland - 3 cups
41) Joe Berg - 3 cups
42) Milton Kort - 2 & 3 cups
43) John Platt - 3 cups and Indian cups
44) Manuel Muerte - 3 cups
45) Tom Mullica - 3 cups
46) Guyot - 3 cups
47) Flicking Fingers - 3 cups
48) Houdini - 3 cups
49) Mark Wilson - 3 Cups
50) Eric DeCamps - 3 cups
51) John George - 3 cups
52) Ross Bertram - 3 cups
53) J.N. Hofzinser - 2 cups & a hat
54) Bob Farmer - 3 cups and one ball
55) Jay Sankey - 3 cups with a 4th cup produced as part of the finale
56) Andy Comic - 3 cups
57) Gary Kurtz - 3 cups
58) John Bannon - 3 cups
59) Steve Draun - 3 cups
60) Ed Marlo - 3 cups
61) Abraham Bongers - 3 cups
62) Manuel Muerte - 1 cup
63) Jim Ryan - 3 cups
64) Charles Bertram - 3 cups
65) Burtini - 3 cups
66) Eddie Joseph - 3 cups (usually)
67) Ozanam - 3 cups
68) Tim Ellis - 2 cups and a juke box
69) Paul Daniels - 1 cup
70) Lewis Ganson - 3 cups
71) Max Malini - 3 cups
72) Bill Palmer -- 1 cup (most of the time)
73) Robert-Houdin - 3 cups
74) Professor Hoffmann - 3 cups
75) Jack Bateman - 3 cup - "Rub-A-Dub-Dub" routine
76) Ian Adair - flower pots and "seeds" routine
77) Dick Williams - 3 cups (with an audience member for stage)

I remember hearing that Shawn Farquhar has a 3 cup routine, with solid-cups ending.

James - David Regal put a one cup routine in print, too. Enjoying seeing the list take shape

I've seen Shawn's routine. It's a real fooler. It is not in print.

Christopher, thanks for the input. I will add David Regal's 1 cup routine to the list as well as Shawn Farquhar.

More updates on the list ...

1) Dai Vernon's routine - 3 cups
2) Tommy Wonder's routine - 2 cups
3) Scotty York's routine - 3 cups
4) Michael Ammar's routine - 3 cups
5) Aldo Colombini's routine - 3 cups
6) Paul Gertner - 3 cups
7) Carl Andrews - 2 cups
8) Gazzo - 3 cups + 1 hat
9) Charlie Miller - 3 cups
10) Jason Latimer - 3 cups
11) David Williamson - 2 cups
12) Al Schneider's Street Cups - 3 cups
13) Al Schneider's Classic Cups - 3 cups
14) Gary Ouellet - 2 cups
15) Dennis Loomis - 3 cups
16) David Regal - 6 cups and 1 cup routine
17) Rene lavand - 1 cup
18) Frank Garcia - 3 cups
19) Dai Vernon - 1 cup routine with Dollar Bills
20) Larry Jennings - 3 cups and 1 cup routines
21) John Carney - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
22) Robert White - 3 cups
23) John Mendoza - 3 cups routine
24) Charlie Miller - 3 cups and Indian Cups and balls
25) Pete Biro - 3 cups and 1 cup routine
26) Johnny Thompson - 3 cups routine
27) Mike Rogers - 3 cup routine
28) Jos Bema (Tommy Wonder) - Solid Can routine
29) Fred Kaps - 3 cups
30) Jim Cellini - 3 cups
31) John Mendoza - 3 cups
32) Johnny Paul - 3 cups
33) Rafael Benatar - 3 cups
34) Alex Emsley - 3 cups
35) Dan Fleshman - 3 cups
36) Ken Brooke - 3 cups
37) Scott F. Guinn - 2 cups
38) John Ramsey - 2 Ice cream containers (ammended)
39) Penn and Teller - 3 Cups 4 hands
40) Laurie Ireland - 3 cups
41) Joe Berg - 3 cups
42) Milton Kort - 2 & 3 cups
43) John Platt - 3 cups and Indian cups
44) Manuel Muerte - 3 cups
45) Tom Mullica - 3 cups
46) Guyot - 3 cups
47) Flicking Fingers - 3 cups
48) Houdini - 3 cups
49) Mark Wilson - 3 Cups
50) Eric DeCamps - 3 cups
51) John George - 3 cups
52) Ross Bertram - 3 cups
53) J.N. Hofzinser - 2 cups & a hat
54) Bob Farmer - 3 cups and one ball
55) Jay Sankey - 3 cups with a 4th cup produced as part of the finale
56) Andy Comic - 3 cups
57) Gary Kurtz - 3 cups
58) John Bannon - 3 cups
59) Steve Draun - 3 cups
60) Ed Marlo - 3 cups
61) Abraham Bongers - 3 cups
62) Manuel Muerte - 1 cup
63) Jim Ryan - 3 cups
64) Charles Bertram - 3 cups
65) Burtini - 3 cups
66) Eddie Joseph - 3 cups (usually)
67) Ozanam - 3 cups
68) Tim Ellis - 2 cups and a juke box
69) Paul Daniels - 1 cup
70) Lewis Ganson - 3 cups
71) Max Malini - 3 cups
72) Bill Palmer -- 1 cup (most of the time)
73) Robert-Houdin - 3 cups
74) Professor Hoffmann - 3 cups
75) Jack Bateman - 3 cup - "Rub-A-Dub-Dub" routine
76) Ian Adair - flower pots and "seeds" routine
77) Dick Williams - 3 cups (with an audience member for stage)
78) Shawn Farquhar - 3 cups with solid-cups ending

I'm working on a seven cups routine.

I did a twelve cup routine for our magic club one evening. I had twelve final loads -- the whole bit. They didn't know it was a routine until it was over.

How could we forget the late great Bob Read's Penultimate Cups & Balls Routine.
AND....
Henri Decremps' routine
Edwin Sachs' routine
Bosco's routine (as described by Robert-Houdin/Hoffman)
Conus' routine (ditto)
Jean Hugard's routine
Ellis Stanyon's routines
Dr. Daly's cups & balls routine
O.W. Meyer's routine
Hans Trixer's routine
Jim Merlini's routine
Edward Browne's routine
Indian Cups & Balls routine by Rinkhausen
The Cups & Cubes by Ron Jamison
Bill Tarr's Cups & Balls routine
Tom Osborne (numerous routines).

Hope this helps, James. I can give you the bibliographical references for the routines listed above if you need them.

Fortasse

How about Ricky Jay's routine? Or is his one of another person's whose name is already on the list?

There is Kurt Ehrler's routine -- 3 cups (combo cup routine)
There are several routines by Bruno Hennig (Joro). There is one three cup routine, a one cup routine and a routine with a bell.

Just PMed you, Fortasse.

By the way how many cups are used in the routines above?

Thanks, Tablic for your input.

May I know how many cups did Ricky Jay use for his routine?

Bill, are you still doing the 12 cups routine now? Which cups did you use, among the hundreds you have, for this 12 cups routine? Are you using one cup each from each set in your collection? Just curious

I did this routine about 3 years ago for IBM Ring 39. I used four sets of mini cups, the Riser cups, the Van Dokkum cups, the Ravel mini cups and the Ickle Pickle mini cups which looked like the Ravel cups.

I had a close-up mat that was made from automobile headliner material -- about 36 inches by 24 inches. The club thought it was just a demonstration of the different styles of mini cups, so it made my task easier.

I started with each set in its drawstring bag, with a setup like you find in Alex Elmsley's book for the salt load, so I was working one ahead. I had the various load balls in each of my jacket pockets, so I could get to them in the natural handling of the cups, etc.

I demonstrated one set, and the size of load it took, then moved it to the front right corner of the mat, all three cups mouth down, and put a load ball on top of the center cup. I did the same thing with the second set, but put it at the front left corner of the mat. The third set went to the right rear corner of the mat, and the last set went to the left rear corner of the mat.

Then I said, "Remember, this set will work with handballs (and revealed that there were three handballs under that set), this set works with golf balls (revealing the golf balls), this set with miniature tennis balls (revealing those), and this set with smaller tennis balls (revealing those)." Due to the nature of the routine, I had ample time to get loads and put them into the cups. The final display had four sets of mini cups across the front edge of the mat.

Eric Falconer mentions it here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=3904092

Going through my collection tonight I came across the following which I don't believe have been mentioned.

Senor Mardo - 1 cup, 2 cups and 3 cups
Jimmy Lake - 3 cups
Richard Kaufman - 3 cups
Randy Wakeman - 3 cups
Hal Levy - 3 different style cups and 3 different colored balls
Nick Trost - 3 cups
Irv Weiner - 3 cups
S. Leo Horowitz (Mohammed Bey) - 3 cups

Let me call your attention to a typo:

Correct spelling is "John Ramsay".

Terry

Henry Holava did a three cup routine with square sponges.

Speaking of C&B routines, are there any good silent (i/e. non-patter)routines?

Fortasse