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OOps! My bad! Thanks for the correction, Bill. Still a great bargain.
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On 2007-06-14 13:45, Pete Biro wrote:
Here's the opportunity to make up your own routine.


good point! I recently bought the new(ish) Fantasima "chinese line" chop cup and promptly lost the routine that came with it- and I thought it was a pretty good routine so I was upset. But then I thought to myself: "I know what this is, I know what it does, I should just make this up myself..."

I love the fantasima cup, but the "kicker" TALKS TALKS TALKS. Badly.
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Line the cup with felt.
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Am I the only one who still does the Larry Jennings routine? I did the Don Alan routine until 1965 when the Jennings routine was published in Genii. In the early 70's, I spent an afternoon with Jennings and got some fine points. The unique load method still fries most magicians.

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It's a clever idea, but I prefer the adaptation I have done of the Don Alan routine. I do three loads, standing.
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The Greater Magic Library The Classic Chop Cup has routines and advice from Larry Jennings, Don Alan, Martin Lewis and Brad Burt. Nice routines and suggestions on how to construct a routine, especially from Brad Burt. Joshua, I am selling my copy for $12 if you are interested. Great stuff, but I perfer the cups and balls and sleight of hand, although I have to say a chop cup kills in the right situation.

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On 2007-06-15 00:27, gaddy wrote:
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On 2007-06-14 13:45, Pete Biro wrote:
Here's the opportunity to make up your own routine.


good point! I recently bought the new(ish) Fantasima "chinese line" chop cup and promptly lost the routine that came with it- and I thought it was a pretty good routine so I was upset. But then I thought to myself: "I know what this is, I know what it does, I should just make this up myself..."

I love the fantasima cup, but the "kicker" TALKS TALKS TALKS. Badly.

One of the magicians in my area uses clear latex caulk, smeared on the insides of his cups. He loads cue balls, when performing cups and balls. I've never heard his loads talk.
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Joshua,

Let's meet at Haine's or Artie's or somewhere else. I'll show you my chop cup routine. You help me with my Pass!

Sound like a good use of your time?!?!?

Chad
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Joshua:
I'd have to agree with Glenn Godsey -- the Larry Jennings "Famous Chop Cup Routine" is a Mozart-level thing of elegant close-up beauty. You can find Larry's meditation on the Chop Cup in the March 1965 issue of Genii in Charlie Miller's Magicana section, with some very easy-to-follow photos of Jennings performing the double-load routine.
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Larry Jennings' routine is really Ron Wilson's... and the final load cover with the silk is Bob Stencils.
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On 2007-06-19 01:27, Pete Biro wrote:
Larry Jennings' routine is really Ron Wilson's... and the final load cover with the silk is Bob Stencils.


Yes, I have heard that before. According to "The Uncanny Scott" book, Ron and Larry brainstormed this together in the early 60's. Larry published his handling in 1965 and Wilson published his in 1987. I'm a great admirer of both men and both versions.

I'm glad to learn about Stencil's contribution. The "silk cover load" is a brilliant move the way Larry did it. Also, Larry's "shrug load" for the second ball is quite different from Ron's...or Don Alan's...or anyone else, and it is beautifully deceptive.

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Just as a update to the thread, I'm doing dan tongs routine, as its simple, a solid routine and had a quick learning curve as I have many other projects on working on. I do plan to visit the jenning routine in the future when time permits if I can it sounds great.
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Joshua,
You would do well to accept Chad's invite. He executes a very good performance. Should you stop by to meet with Artie and the gang you may even run into me. Nevermind, nothing to see here.

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I did. I told him I'm up at haines basiclly every staurday afternoon. I usually stop over at arties for a few mins after, but I don;t know many of those guys so I general don;t stay there long
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I have to put my vote in for Dan Tong's chop cup routine. I like it for several reasons. For one, it is short and he doesn't go to the well too much with the benefit of the chop cup. He mixes in traditional sleight of hand, the chop cup, a nice little "hole in the cup" effect, a different colored ball, and a final load. I am completely sure this is because I know the effect, but when I watch DVD's of others mentioned above, it concerns me a little with how differently the cup is handled between catch and release. Dan Tong seems to work it perfectly from my perspective.
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I just came up with a totally new prop to do a routine with, usining a Yamaka (SP?), Matzah Balls, a bagel and LOCKS. And a breadstick for a wand.
Being a Gentile I probably spelled all the words wrong.
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L & L has just come out with another "World's Greatest Magic" video devoted to the Chop Cup. It contains the following:

My Best Friend – David Regal
Chop Cup Routine – John Mendoza
The Two Goblets – Gary Ouellet
Chop Cup – Danny Tong (courtesy of Kozmo's Magic)
Chop Cup – Steve Dacri
Jennings Chop Cup – Larry Jennings
The Chop Cup – Jim Swain


I'm certain that there's something for everybody on this dvd.
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Pete: Please tell me you're joking. The yarmulke is symbol of religious devotion, not a prop for a routine. Pick a different set of props and stereotypes to do your magic with . . .
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I used Don Alans routine a start but have now progressed to my own simply through trial and error and a need to make money from it as I am using it for my ending of my street show. In other places I would use Dan tongs.
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