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I have been doing a variety of unusual stunts for awhile, and I have been hearing about people having money stapled to their bodies.

I have a pretty high pain tolerance, so this sounds like something I could get into. However, are there precautions I should take? I don't want to start trying this blindly and end up with blood poisoning or something.
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Youre in the territory of greats like Sideshow Bennie and Red Stuart. It's not the best of ideas to go ahead and do something just because you heard or saw someone else do it. Authorship is a tender issue.
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On 2007-06-14 08:18, thegreatnippulini wrote:
Authorship is a tender issue.
Ahh, but is it LEGAL tender?

And if so, can you tell me how to staple it to my body?
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I was not aware that this is a copyrighted act. I have seen and heard of quite a few people doing this, not just the ones mentioned above.

If this is an act that is specifically associated with just a few people who created it, then that is one issue.

If this is an old bit that has just been popularized by someone else (a la Todd Robbins eating glass) then that is another issue all together.
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I do the staplegun as well. Personially it's not that bad for me, but everything all in all relys on the shot placement. Some are ok, some hurt, and others just bleed out like none other.


Also don't let anybody do your upper elbow.
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Practically speaking, stapling is about: location, depth of staple, sterility (cleanliness at least...therefore when in your show to do it, scarring and pain tolerance. It is also a great way to get some tips, since you usually keep the money stapled to you.

But I have been unimpressed by the presentations so far because the presentations are all around "Hey, look at me. I can tolerate pain...and I am willing to do it for money". Which is a little like prostitution.

If someone came up with a real breakthrough presentation, it could rock the house.
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Anything you do to sterilize the staples... becomes completely useless when you staple it through the dirtiest thing on earth... Unites States Currency, the best is when you get those 20's and the cocaine traces on them.
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On 2007-06-14 15:18, erikkloeker wrote:
..the best is when you get those 20's and the cocaine traces on them.


Yes, the cocaine numbs the pain. Quoting from Sideshow and Animal Tricks by Herward Carrington on the modus operandi of the human pincushion act "The secret consists in the fact that the flesh had perviously been treated with cocaine, until the sense of pain was deadened." (p.15)

I guess that is one way to do it, but what is strange to me about people doing it today is that when I first saw people doing the stapling money to the forehead bit, it was done by putting a bit of double sided tape of the back of the bill and gluing a fake staple front on the other side, then use a staple gun with no staples. I thought that this was very obvious, and was surprised when people bought it, or at least reacted to it.

I get the impression that some of these modern primitive types saw magician types doing this, did not realize it was a gaff, then started doing it for real.

I suppose that you can do it, but the problem is that there is no way to make it "safe;" since even if you had sterile staples, you do you through some of the filthiest paper on earth. Is it any wonder that some scientists have been using wheresgeorge.com to study the way germs can spread.

And these days there is more stuff to spread. Anyone doing the stapling to the body stunt should read up on flesh eating bacteria. I have a friend who got "bit" by FEB, and almost lost her arm. Seeing something like that makes you lean toward caution when doing any type of skin puncture stunt, and their is now way to be antiseptic with stapling money to the body.

Even the gaffed way is dangerous. It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. That is almost what happened to the Amazing Jonathan's assistant here in Vegas. Jonathan does a comedy bit where he "blindfolds" his assistant, Psychic Tanya, by stapling playing cards over here eyes. Of course if is all gaffed, but one day the staple gun had staples in it, and one of them went into Tanya's eye. She recovered, and did not lose any sight, but it could have been a lot worse.

What probably happened was that the staple gun was left out, a stage hand saw it, filled if with staples to do some work, and then returned it. I have heard of things like this happening to other performers as well..

But yeah, go ahead, staple money to your body, or better yet, hand the staple gun to an audience member and have them do it, just to remove the last bit of safety you have with this stunt.

TK
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Ok...mercy already...I need to clarify my use of the word "sterility"...I was trying to avoid talking about it because I don't want goofs to think they read it on this board and can do it....Anyways, of course you can't make this a sterile procedure and there is a difference between a "sterile" procedure and a "clean" procedure.

Forget about the money. Although you could wipe down the staples with alcohol, most people don't have access to an autoclave and would therefore put their "sterile" staples into an unsterile staple gun. So sterility is not going to happen way before the money gets involved. But what should happen, and I am not advocating this, is that the staples and gun should be as clean as clean could be(and cleaned on a regular basis). Alcohol does not sterilize everything, but it would be good to wash down the gun. You should avoid performing this stunt after sweating up a storm under the hot lights (hence the reference to timing) unless you clean off your arm.

Anyways, my reference to sterility was not that this stunt can be made sterile (and therefore "safe"), but that it should be made as-safe-as-possible. As with all stunts, you can optimize your level of safety and minimize your risk. In fact, that is usually the goal. (This is why I also referenced location of the stapling and staple size as other contrinuting factors in the risks associated with this stunt.)

The safest way to do it is to gaff it (I also didn't want to tip the DS tape...which is a great gaff.). But as Tim pointed out, it still carries SOME risk. (BTW There are topical anesthetics for those that want to do the procedure badly enough, but can't muster up the mojo to work through the (minor) discomfort. Cocaine is not recomended as one of those anesthetics to use (despite the fact that it is the only anesthetic that is a vasoconstrictor--which would help).)


Tim is absolutely correct with "But yeah, go ahead, staple money to your body, or better yet, hand the staple gun to an audience member and have them do it, just to remove the last bit of safety you have with this stunt. " ....Just what you want: Give a staple gun to a someone who you don't know and who may very well be a drunken, judgementally-impaired audience member that has something to prove to his friends and thinks he can do it by being "Mr. Funny Guy" by stapling you in an unwelcome body part.
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I do stapling but I don't do the standerd money stapleing I stapel notes but I don't think paper is any beter and I don't clean the staples because you cant clean all the staple gun out so as far as cleaning I just clan the forehead pull the staple out a bit of saliva that's it. I do the forehead no gaffs and the tongue I don't think a lot ar doing the tongue and I don't just use small staples I ues biggest size.
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I've heard (second hand) that Red swears by saliva for cleaning up after a stapling.

This makes some sense, since saliva contains an antibacterial, lysozyme.

(I seem to remember there being a rather lengthy and involved thread some time ago regarding sterilization and what will and won't kill bacteria)

As for drunk volunteers, well I suppose we always run that danger when using a volunteer. I'd like to think that anyone using a volunteer for the stapling would have the common sense to dismiss a person who was drunk, and whether the volunteer is drunk or not, be smart enough to always keep hold of the hand holding the staple gun.
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Nice to see you here, Tim! This thread also brings up the topic of the use of painkillers for torture acts. I have way too much to say about that, so I'll just leave it as it is and tell you what I tell my customers; "Getting a pierce or a tattoo without feeling the pain is like eating food without tasting it".

"Sterile" staples? You have to sterilize the stapler, the money, and prep the skin with betadine or alcohol prior to the act. In addition, the stapler cannot be sterilized properly without having to be dissassembled, degreased, then reassembled. Also, (Jeremy Sweiss), have you ever seen what happens to non-stainless materials in an autoclave? If the metal takes a few days to rust in the rain, it will do it immediatley in the clave. It will also render your clave useless for anything but a neat looking doorstop.

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I don't mean to change the conversation but I'm curious as to how long this routine has been around? The first time I saw it was when Steve-o of Jackass did it. He'd staple the underwear of female audience members to his chest. Then he'd staple his, um, questionable areas to his leg. There's numerous interviews he's done where he grabs any stapler from a desk and staples himself.

Stapling seemed to gain popularity soon after Steve-o was doing it on TV. However Steve-o is trained in many circus arts and it's likely he was taught this by someone else.

That's as far back as I know of Stapling. Can anyone tell me where it started?
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Stapling has been around much longer than the jackass generation. I don't know for sure, but I don't think Steve-o's circus arts training really has anything to do with learning it other than maybe seeing someone doing it and just saying "I can do that" and just doing it. I may be wrong but that's my opinion on it, also if I remember correctly I think SES mentioned that Captain Don did stapling as well. I understand that Steve-o has background in Circus but the contexts in which he performs and the presentation he uses does not gain my respect.
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If you are going to allow people to staple money to your torso, be especially careful of placement. As Ses Carny told us at advanced sideshow school, people really want to staple your nipple. This is obviously not fun for "the staplee" (or is it "the stapled").
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Yes that is true and his recommendation was to "guide" their hand, there are many different schools of thought on this and I guess the best thing to do is know your own limits and decide what works for you. I can say I've seen Red get stapled directly on the nipple, palm of his hand, tip of his finger, in the armpit, directly dead center in middle of his forehead all with a Arrow T-50 staple gun. Haven't witnessed it but I've heard tell of him doing other locations on his body. Now, this is what works for Red, that may not be what works for someone else.
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Agreed that his presentation isn't everyones cup of tea. I asked him how he learned to eat and walk on glass when I met him and he said he was taught by an old timer in a circus he worked with. I never thought to ask about stapling as it wasn't something I knew of as a traditional stunt.
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"Sterile" staples? You have to sterilize the stapler, the money, and prep the skin with betadine or alcohol prior to the act. In addition, the stapler cannot be sterilized properly without having to be dissassembled, degreased, then reassembled. Also, (Jeremy Sweiss), have you ever seen what happens to non-stainless materials in an autoclave? If the metal takes a few days to rust in the rain, it will do it immediatley in the clave. It will also render your clave useless for anything but a neat looking doorstop.



I think that was what I was saying. You can't autoclave or sterilize any of this equipment. You can only keep is as clean as possible and you should clean it and care for it before and after each use.
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Geez...and I have people close to me who freak out over that certain effect that requires me to stick a pin in my hand as a part of the M.O. Even doing this 30+ times a day during the course of a "normal" day/night of strolling, it pales in comparison to the chance of contracting something through stapling!

Chris

P.S.--Dethcheez often sells his stapling routine on the site that begins with an "E" and is in the Bay.
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On 2007-06-14 08:18, thegreatnippulini wrote:
Youre in the territory of greats like Sideshow Bennie and Red Stuart. It's not the best of ideas to go ahead and do something just because you heard or saw someone else do it. Authorship is a tender issue.


I have seen sideshow bennie do that... we are friends over myspace.
He would be a guy to talk to on that subject.
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