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chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
My "silks" for soft soap are now made of nylon for durability. Lining the fek with non-slip als helped.
But that brings to mind another well kept secret -- the good old Tommy Windsor popcorn box. Used to be able to buy them by the dozen.
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Gregg,
The difficulty getting good boxes is still a real problem. The most common reason for using Nylon is money and anyone can sew them! They deteriorate in any kind of light. The strength is a very temporary thing. (Ask the US Navy why they quit using it where strength counts.) The fake in mine are custom handmade and don't slip. They are also weighted to hang correctly. However, I have seen the problem in the cheaper sets. It can ruin your whole day! On the magic shop sets, at least sew a piece of elastic over the opening of the gimmick to help hold the "damaged" hanks in. (Good point you brought up! "Fall Out") This is a audience pleaser. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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HappyJay New user Akron, OH 13 Posts |
There are boxes for Soft Soap that can be acquired through the wholesaler, Magic City. The soft soap is a cotton variety, but the boxes are good for a 12-inch version of the trick in my experience. I am not sure how well they would work for 18-inch handkerchiefs. http://www.magicity.com/product_info.php?products_id=1196
I have a 15 year old cotton Soft Soap that works very well for me, but the newer cotton handkerchiefs I have found to be horrible. |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
These boxes are too small for my 18" silk Soft Soap use.
The boxes I use are 6" x 8.75" x 2" deep. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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HappyJay New user Akron, OH 13 Posts |
I figured that they would be too small, but thought that I ought to mention them.
This is probably a dying question, but if I were to make my own silk set of Soft Soap, what is the best way to "stain" the dirty handkerchiefs, supposing that I should like one with lipstick-looking prints, and the other two with other, but different from each other, markings? |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
I have an old home-made set where one hank is spattered with “food stains” (red, yellow, purple, brown, and green inks) it is funny when I talk about the buffet I ate at and name the foods. Then I have one that has black hand prints on it (from working on the truck), and another with holes in it (some with burn edges – ink color of course) again the source of jokes (putting out my girlfriend’s hair, etc.) and one with a lot of brownish-red (suggesting blood from where she punched me in the nose for setting it afire in the first place).
I have others too but that gives you some ideas. The stains, damage, etc. to the hanks are only limited to your imagination and your story line. Man I have to dig this stuff out and start doing it again! I put it aside for my “Red-Neck Washing Machine” routine (it’s posted here on the Café some where)! All of my hanks are 18 inch and like others here, back in the day I used to make my own boxes. I played this routine as much for adults (in the comedy club days) as I ever did for kids.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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drhackenbush Special user 686 Posts |
I used black, off-white and silver spray paints to "dirty" up my silks, just spattering them randomly.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
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On 2008-03-13 08:37, HappyJay wrote: Thanks for the effort! Don't forget that Sharpie pens work great on real silk. At one time I had some homemade silks with dog paw prints. Try it! Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
Ever wonder how a how a bizarrist would use soft soap -- and what the "dirty" hanks would look like?
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
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Steven True Special user Bonney Lake,WA 765 Posts |
Bob, where do you get your boxes made? I want to go back to using the effect again but the new ones are..well like it has already been said...just not real good to work with.
Thanks Steven |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Steven,
I have to make my own from poster board. That is a habit I'm willing to kick! Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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robinr Loyal user Greater Los Angeles area 226 Posts |
Like Chmara, my first version, many years ago, was the Tommy Wonder version using a pop corn box with a secret compartment. I bought it from the the long defunct Douglas Magicland. Ken Allen described an easy way of making a change box (of sorts) in his book "T.I.P.S."
Robin |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
As the USA goes out of the production business, it gets harder to find the products we need or people who know how to make them.
The good news is that a lot of magicians are do-it-yourselfers! LOL Even 20 years ago, the South was covered with paper and box companies. Now we think of pine trees as a way to turn $3000/acre land into $75/acre land. Paper products are imports. Pine trees are just future dangerous fires and liabilities to the land owners. Things change! Keep up the search for boxes! Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- I haven't performed Soft Soap since Saturday night at a banquet at Incahoots! But I don't think I'm cured. |
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Rick Fisher Elite user Rick Fisher 471 Posts |
I have always liked this effect and thought it was time to modernize a bit so we came up with our own version called Popcorn Surprise using laminated popcorn boxes. The hanks we use aren't 100% cotton...cotton is just too difficult to load into the tube. We have 'stained' the cloths with lipstick,butter/mustard stains and chocolate stains. The box is laminated so it can be used over and over again. But as Bob pointed out it is a real crowd pleaser!
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. Jim Gerrish used to take his Wiz Kids on summer tours, staying at KOA campgrounds rather than motels. These always have an on-site laundromat and the Kids would grab empty detergent boxes from the trash and use them for Soft Soap boxes. They worked with an ungimmicked box method and just needed a soap box of any size to use for the effect, then tore them up at the end. Even the small machine dispensed boxes worked.
Today they sometimes get boxes of detergent from Dollar Stores, start by opening the box and dumping out the detergent (carefully saved for later use in a plastic waste basket) and then do the effect with the empty box. It costs a buck (plus tax) per show, but that's still pretty cheap.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
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