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Joshua Barrett
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Awesome, I hope richard gets that printed. call me old fashion but I perfer to learn from text
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On 2007-07-05 21:35, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
May I buy your book for the price of the genii issue? Smile


I might just be able to work that out for you Jonathan.

Shipping and handling will be around $200. Smile

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And that will cost me $1,000 or more to reach Malaysia, LOL
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Those are really beautiful!

But I thought Ramsay was famous for using dixie cups (or something similar) for his C&B routine?
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He was. He used ice cream cups, which he spray painted with silver paint. They don't hold up too well. Many years ago, Pete Biro had the idea of having Rings and Things make him a set of cups that were shaped similar to the Monti cups, but had the necessary recess in the bottom for the final production. Those are now in the cups and balls museum.

Jake got permission from Pete to reissue the cups.
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FYI in 1986 or 87, John V. Hope made a set of metal cups from some candle holders at his house.

For those who want paper cups, try the Haagen Dazs or Ben & Jerry's four ounce cups.
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If you are in the South, Blue Bell has some small cups, as well.

I also picked up some cups in the Hauptbahnhof in Munich when I was there the first part of June.
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Small tubs of ice cream are commonly available in the UK. It's these small tubs that Ramsay would have used.
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Are these cups for doing the same routine with much nicer props then, or do the ice cream tubs have a different routine?
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They are for the same routine with more durable props.
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The Ramsay routine, as he did it, needed a recessed bottom to hold the coils for his special way of ending the routine. The ice cream cups, painted silver, is what he personally used. When I designed the metal cups, now available from RNT II, it was so I could have a durable, metal cup, nicely made with a nice weight and feel. Jake has decided to market these so others can enjoy a cup with this feature.
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On 2007-08-06 08:14, Richard Evans wrote:
Small tubs of ice cream are commonly available in the UK. It's these small tubs that Ramsay would have used.


If you have a chance, would you take a few pictures of what's available there?
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Thanks for all the information on ice cream cups!

The PBRCs look great ... kind of a "Metropolis" vibe to them (the movie, not Superman's hometown.)
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On 2007-08-06 12:40, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
If you have a chance, would you take a few pictures of what's available there?


I'd be happy to. Give me a couple of days to get a few 'sets' & I'll post the pics.

I've had a go at painting some in the past, but they often have a waxy coating that can be difficult to paint on. If anyone has any tips on how to get around that I'd be grateful.

Richard
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I found that Krylon spray paint worked fine on the ones I got from Germany and the ones I picked up here.
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Thanks Bill. I'll see if that works. Last time I tried a pewter-coloured spray paint - maybe I was trying to be too smart. I couldn't get an even coat.
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Rich to get a great even coat you must warm the can up.
The normal procedure for doing this requires a pan of water and a stove, heat the water to hot but not boiling ..place the can in 3/4 of the way...oh and turn off the flame or heating element. wait about a min. shake the can and then spray for a nice even coat. That seems to break down any partticles that are in the cans as they sometimes sit on the shelf too long before being used.
Do not overheat or it will explode. Turn off the heat before placing the can in the water ....very important point.
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On 2007-08-06 16:23, Mobius303 wrote:
Turn off the heat before placing the can in the water ....very important point.
Mobius


I'll be sure to remember that bit Smile
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Since I live in Houston, and I keep my paint stored in the garage, it isn't necessary for me to heat the cans up. The weather does that for me! But it's a good suggestion. Just make sure you don't exceed the temperature recommendations on the can.
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This summer the garage has been decidedly cool here in the UK Smile It's going to have to be a pan of hot water.
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three. Elayne Boosler
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