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Robert Kohler
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Terry:
Are the final loads in the crystal cups detectable when in the cups? If not, that is truly ingenious. I wonder if ball bearings same size would be detectable? WOW...
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Rick,
Yes those are bullet casings on a couple of the wands. I have a neighbor who is quite the outdoorsman who gave me the spent bullets. I used a pipe cutter to cut the casings right before they turn in to accept the projectile. The photo doesn’t show it well, but they shine up really nice with some work.
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Richard:

Bill is correct. They are PF/DD chrome plated chick cups. And he's right about the National Water cups also (did we expect anything less?)!

Here's the rundown:

Top shelf (L to R): PF/DD Chrome plated Chick cups, PF/DD Copper, PF/DD Chrome plated, PF/DD Brass, Magic Makers "Paul Faux" Brass, Miller Copper, National Water

Middle Shelf (L to R): Original RnT Monti Aluminum, Original RnT Monte Steel (Bells of St. Mary's), Morrissey Combo Aluminum (1971), Unknown maker Aluminim, Johnny Paul/Pete Biro Brass, Ravel Super Cups Aluminum that I painted white and made into a combo set

Bottom Shelf (L to R): Ken Brooke (?) Aluminum Chop, Original RnT Chop, Morrissey Aluminum Chop, Morrissey Aluminum Pocket-size Chop, Home made (found) Chop made by Danny Dew, Original PF/DD Copper Combo made by Danny Dew (I expect this is quite rare)

Levity:

Thanks for the kind words. I made the wands to fit in with my sets of copper cups. I have a thicker wand for my Miller cups, and it looks good because of the heftiness of those cups.

Robert:

The final loads are not detectable because of the cut glass cups. I've talked about this on some other threads that dealt with clear cups, but it was a result of an idea for a "dream trick" that Roy Fromer wrote about in his book, "The Cups." Another magician friend and I developed the idea around 1975-1976.

I will say this - not only can you produce a ball bearing, but you can produce a brightly colored ball when you lift the cup(s) off the table (just a different method at that point). That's an additonal kicker ending possibility.

I am playing around with some different cups right now and will try to post a photo in the future. It's a different look, but I'm not sure the load looks as good because of the shape of the new cups. And right now it seems that I'm limited in some ways in regard to load options. But I'm working on it every so often.

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Terry,

That's good info re the wands for the Miller cups. I've got two sets of Millers coming my way--copper and chromium plated--and will heed your words re the wand relationship to those. Thanks.

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Nice cups Terry, thanks for sharing your collection.

Those cut glass cups are very nice, I would love to see you using them sometime. I would think that seeing the FL appear would be a wonderful thing.

Posted: Aug 15, 2008 6:57pm
Here are all of my cups:

http://s333.photobucket.com/albums/m365/......cups.jpg
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Great symmetry there, Tom. I'll post a pic of mine when the Tall Traditionals and Mini Jesters arrive from RNT II. This week I got the two Charlie Miller sets I bought at auction recently--the copper and the nickel chrome plated. They are fabulous. Great patina on the coppers, and I gave the chrome ones a wipe down, removed some dark marks from age, and they are as shiny as the day they were plated. Of course I didn't clean the copper ones--only a wipe with a dry cloth to get the dust off. Like I said, the patina on those ones is great.

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I saw those up for auction... And you are very right.. they had a ritch dark patina that looked unreal.

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Shawn, the patina's so rich you could almost eat it.

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I saw those when I was in Louisville. Both sets are particularly nice. I would have bid on them, except that I already have examples of both. Contrary to some opinions that were posted here about a year ago, I don't need every cup that was ever made -- just an example of them!

Those chrome plated ones are rare, because they were not officially issued.
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Here are photos of 2 sets I didn't have in the previous photos:

PF/DD Silver Plated 2 Cup Set (never had the 3rd cup)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc154......BSet.jpg

Joe Kerr Jr. Plastic Set with Pom-Pon Balls

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc154......Cups.jpg

I should also mention that the White Ravel Aluminum Cups in the previous photo consists of 4 stacked cups in case any of you "eagle-eyes" were wondering about that. I bought 2 sets to make a gimmick. I tossed out the gimmick a number of years ago and was left with one extra cup.

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Nice cups. I only have a set of regular brass cups with knit covered red cork balls. I also still have my first set of the 3 colored chinese cups with the pom balls. No need for pics though, I am sure everyone has seen these sets before:)
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On 2008-08-17 14:33, Bill Palmer wrote:
I saw those when I was in Louisville. Both sets are particularly nice. I would have bid on them, except that I already have examples of both. Contrary to some opinions that were posted here about a year ago, I don't need every cup that was ever made -- just an example of them!

Those chrome plated ones are rare, because they were not officially issued.


They're very nice, Bill...I'm getting great delight using the copper ones...something about the feeling and the knowledge that they've "done good service" before they came to me adds a little something special to being able to use them. And the chrome plated ones are simply dazzling...classy and classic.

G
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My first set of Charlie Miller cups belonged to a dear friend of mine -- a fellow with whom I attended school from the age of 9. His name was Henry Slaughter. He was not much of a magician, but he did the color changing knives well. When he figured out that the cups and balls were a bit more than he wanted to fool with, he gave me his set.

By the time I got them they had a great patina from handling and from pipe tobacco smoke.
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That is a great collection of cups, Rannie.
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What a terrific thread. I have really enjoyed the photos and all this talk of cups...

Wonderful interview Bill! You are every bit the gentleman, historian, and character that I had imagined you to be.
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Thanks very much.
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Grrr! I could not post these as embedded images. No idea why not, as I used the proper code. I'm assuming it's on The Magic Café's end.

ANYHOW.... Here is a link to photos of my collection, for those who may care:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v213/reverendgaddy/cups/
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That's a great collection, gaddy.
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Thank you! Unfortunately I put it in front of my bookcase hoping more of my books would show than actually did.

But I think y'all get the point. I'm very happy to share!
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