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alannasser
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Steve Martin's very clear post tempts me to re-think the position I defended earlier on this thread. And I'm glad that the thread has continued with some very useful discussion.

Just a last word on "hero worship" and a very strange way of thinking about the merits of a trick. This from a recent post on Skywalker:

"If Tim Trono recommends this then that's good enough for me."

Ouch!
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Christopher, the way Autoboahn is structured is that the strength of the effect lies in the fact that the magician removes a boxed deck of cards which he nor anyone else touches until the end of the routine. And at the end of the trick, no one can say, "Oh everyone must choose that number" as the spectator doesn't even know which number he or she is going to choose.

Autobahn is more of a prediction effect. Havinge a spectator shuffle the deck and then call out a card and then a number and them have them deal down to that number revealing their card is a different effect. It's more of the spectator as mentalist or magician. That sounds more like what you are working on.

Both effects are great but different. When people talk about the Grail it does confuse me a bit as there are so many presentational angles for ACCAN, which one would be the best? Depends on the performer.
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Hi folks,

Just a quick heads up in case you didn't get the e-mail.

The demand for the '5 for 1' offer (mentioned earlier in this thread) has just been phenomenal! So much so that 'Double Decker' has now completely sold out. But, the deal now includes the 'ROUTE 1' manuscript instead! This is my other ACAN effect - also mentioned elsewhere in this thread. The offer will only last until Saturday at midnight so anyone who is sitting on the fence should act before then because come Sunday morning it will all be over!

Visit the website for more details: http://www.full52.com

Cheers,

Dave.
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On 2007-07-12 14:25, Steve Martin wrote:
Fbnc - without giving too much away, you need a photocopier in a private room where you can get a reasonable impression of what we in the UK call your "bum". It couldn't be simpler.


Any effect that demands electronically produced pictorial replicas of me bum... well it must be a winner.
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I've bought it yesterday, I'm waiting for the pdf now.

I'll post a review when I get it.
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Clever, simple and effective.


A great "little" effect(I knew the different methods used in this trick [magician's and mentalist's method] but I was not brilliant enough to think about mixing them together) that you will dare to do if you're not comfortable with ACA(A)N effects. The great part is that it's an ACAN effect but it actually looks like a ACAAN effect.
The building of the routine is well thought too.

I recommend both of Dave's ACAAN effects (Autobahn and Route 1) but it really depends of your situation.
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I can't get the link to print off the extra something for autobahn to work anybody else tried it or had problems?
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Rowland,

I had no problem with the link but I did have a bit of a problem printing it to fit, if you know what I mean. I'm probably being too picky because it's very close and doesn't affect the result at all.

If you PM me with the exact problem you're having I might be able to help.
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Hi Guys,
I ordered this ebook last Thursday. I have yet to receive the product. I read on Dave's site that all ebook purchases are sent within twelve hours. I've emailed Dave and pm'd him. Haven't heard anything from him. Have any of you had problems with the turn around time at Full 52 Productions? There is no phone number to contact Dave on his website.
Thanks,
Lou
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Lou,

You ORDERED the e-book last Thursday, but you paid by e-cheque which didn't actually clear until TODAY!

So, now that I have actually received the money, you may have the item.

It's in your inbox.

Dave.
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I apologize if I offended you Dave. I hadn't heard from you through email or PM's. I was simply inquiring regarding the order. Due to ignorance in understanding Paypal, I hadn't realized there was such a long delay in the clearing of the check. I would never expect you to send me my item before you received your money. To all that have read this, I will be the first to say that I am quite pleased with the Autobahn manuscript. Again, I am sorry if I upset or offended you in any way.
Thank you,
Lou
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I am also not having any luck getting Dave to reply to emails or pms it is a shame as I am also very pleased with Autobahn.
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I've also not had a response from Dave despite emailing him twice about an Autobahn order placed a month ago. Dave - can you reply please? Your service in the past has been good. We've had a postal strike in the UK, but I just want to know if it's been shipped or not and is caught up in the backlog.
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Lou,

It's quite alright - I'm not offended in any way.

Rowland, the artwork problem has now been remedied. Please visit the link in the manuscript and you will be able to download the full colour bits and bobs. Sorry about the delay.

Steve, I'm losing my mind wiith this postal strike - we're having similar problems with BBM orders. I'm receiving e-mails from people who I know for a fact have had their items sent so I don't have any other option but to start re-sending items. Please PM me here at the Café with your address and I'll get a second copy out to you.

Many thanks for all your patience during these 'pain in the arse' postal problems!

Dave.
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"The Grail Odds" iPhone App is for use with "The Grail" by Mike Rose. You must own "The Grail" card trick in order to benefit from this App. The instructions for "The Grail" card trick will not be explained as to not give away the secret to anyone not owning "The Grail".

What this App does is eliminate you from having to do any calculations, removing any memory work and allowing you to concentrate on your presentation.

"I The love the Grail ACAAN but I hate doing math in my head with the new Grail app there is no more math so I can just work on the presentation,  with Carls app anyone can do this awesome ACAAN Effect with ease." - Erick Olson

"Really nice Carl. 
The Grail has never been easier to perform. What a great idea!!"  
Peter Nardi (AIMC)
(Associate Of The Inner Magic Circle)

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-grail......567?mt=8

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Carl, I'm sure it's great but why are you posting this in this thread?
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Ordered this yesterday. Will give the best review I can without tipping the method as soon as I have studied it. This sounds really too good to be true so I expect to be somewhat disapointed. But I have heard good things about it here so I hope it is as powerful as it seems to be. I am just curious as to why two business cards with unique artwork are used. Does it have to do with the number selection or getting the chosen card at the right number? Hmmm we'll see when I get it.
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Ok here is my review.

This is exactly as described. My thinking was the business cards are placed into the deck to devine the location or selection of a card. This is not so.

A card is named. Your business cards are shown and you write the card they freely named on the blank back of one. ( No fishing, no magician's choice, nothing) Then you explain that although it was a free choice, it was not totally random since some one may be more drawn to a particular card etc. (this is BS but it gives reason for the next part.) Then you show a business card that says smallest random number generator on the back with a bunch of numbers 1-52 randomly distributed on the back. ( This is the artwork described in the effect.) Next you hand them this special business card with a marker and you tell them to place both behind their back and simply dab the marker onto the card on the side with the numbers. When they bring it back around, you use the number their mark is closest too as the randomly selected number. Keep in mind they have been holding onto the deck before ANY of this even started. You take the cards, uncase them, ( NO DISPLACEMENT YOU REALLY DO SIMPLY UNCASE THE CARDS AND HAND THEM TO THE SPECTATOR.) hand them the deck and they count the cards face up until they get to the number -1. You tell them to stop, explain what has happened and the impossibility of the next card being the one they named, and say turn it over, and sure enough it is the corect named card. They are left with the two business cards.

This is a very clever method that does not use a memorized stack, although it would make the trick better if you did. No slieght of hand whatsoever just a clever selection of a random number and audience management to be sure they do exactly as instructed. To simplify, you hand them a deck, say name a card, write it on the back of one busines card, have them place the number generator behind their back and dab it, have them count to that number and the card is there.

You can not get any simpler than this. It is Quick, Easy, easy to reset, plays nice in a walk around situation, uses one normal examinable deck, no sleight of hand, no math, no displacement or card index, and you never touch the deck except to simply remove the cards but you are not doing a move there. In fact if you use a memorized deck you don't have to touch the deck at all.

Any questions feel free to ask. I will do my best without describing the method.
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Christopher

while looking for comments on Route 1, I came across your post.

Re "Now I use a version from a friend of mine, and the spectator shuffles, you can borrow a deck, ANY deck, the cards don't have to all be there etc. It is to be released as a package soon, and I think it will be one of the best releases in years, but this isn't the place to talk about that."

Can you tell me if that product was released and what it was?

thanks

Gerard


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On Jul 21, 2007, Christopher Williams wrote:
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On 2007-07-21 15:38, Dave Forrest wrote:
Chris,

Are you serious? How many times have you been working tables or strolling and found the opportunity to borrow a deck of cards? Likewise, how does shuffling the deck enhance an ACAN effect? Answer - it doesn't - it would DETRACT from the effect. Moving the cards around is exactly what ACAN is NOT about!

There are numerous ACAN type routines in print where you can go into the effect from a deck in use if this is what you're after. Michael Close has a VERY good routine like this, it was part of his lecture the last time I saw it.

In short, the answer to all of your questions, I'm VERY pleased to tell you, is no.

Dave.



Yes I was being serious. I don't borrow a deck of cards at gigs, but there are the occasions where I have had people at club gigs or restaurants, sometimes pubs, saying, 'Use these'. So I was curious if I could use this routine in those situations, as I am a worker, and these are just some of the types of places I perform.

Why does shuffling help? Because there are some effects, such as spell to any named card. People have said to me, oh, but the deck must be set to spell to every card...the usual response. I used to use Ken Krenzels method of doing the ACAAN within the card box. Then I honestly had people saying things like 'They are set up to count to any number, or people name that number all the time etc'. Now I use a version from a friend of mine, and the spectator shuffles, you can borrow a deck, ANY deck, the cards don't have to all be there etc. It is to be released as a package soon, and I think it will be one of the best releases in years, but this isn't the place to talk about that. So yes, to me, shuffling helps.
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