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Black Tiger New user Hertfordshire, UK 27 Posts |
Guys, as stated on the blog, the Paradigm Shifter must be held within 4-6 inches of the Enlightenment Engine in order to activate it and levitate the card. This photo illustrates the point clearly...
If yours is only working from a distance of millimetres, I would suggest there is a fault either with the PS or the EE. It's hard to tell from the perspective of the photo, but it looks as though the finger is more or less directly above the deck. Personally, I still think this would be very impressive to witness; if you want/need to perform the levitation from further away, then the PS is not for you and you will need a stronger PK magnet. I think Ben has been quite clear about this from the outset. |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
I don't read his blog and wouldnt expect to have to.
My review- http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=109&0 |
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king42262 New user 9 Posts |
Even so with a distance of 4-6 inches how will it be possible to perform it in the spectators hand as shown on the demo ?????
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Black Tiger New user Hertfordshire, UK 27 Posts |
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On 2008-05-10 12:36, GarySumpter wrote: Personally, if I was going to spend £70 on a magic purchase, I would be doing as much research as possible; this would include reading this thread in its entirety, reading the short blog and reading the product info pack. Your review is good; it sounds like an honest opinion of Enlightenment and should help others to decide if they should make the purchase or not. For what it's worth, yes, I agree that the PS is perhaps a little overpriced for what it is, but so are many other magic items out there. I guess its value depends on your personal circumstances. To a working pro, for example, the PS is probably quite cheap, but to a hobbyist it is quite expensive. In any case, misunderstandings will always occur. I'm not saying you're wrong and Ben is right or vice versa. If you or anyone else is unhappy with your purchase, I would like to think Ben will address your concerns either publicly on this thread or privately by PM. Whatever happens, I hope you eventually get some use out of this and don't feel you have wasted £70. All the best. |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
Fair comments mate.
I never usually give in to hype, I read several long threads on here and looked at the info pack. That should be enough to make a decision. Gary |
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Black Tiger New user Hertfordshire, UK 27 Posts |
By the way, and I could be wrong here, but I don't think the information regarding distance from PS and EE (4-6 inches) has been given in this thread or the info pack. It only appears on the blog. To help avoid any misunderstandings, perhaps it would have been a good idea to state this information in the info pack as well as the blog. Then again, Ben has been so forthright with disclosing the method for Enlightenment in the weeks/months prior to its release, that maybe he has already given out too much information? Food for thought. To my knowledge, this is the first time a creator of an effect has been so open about the methodology prior to its release; with other expensive items you might get a brief description of the effect and would have to take your chances.
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Wait a minute,
Will an M5 give you better range? If so then perhaps that should be said at the outset because I thought the Shifter was the Ideal magnet (ideal meaning strong enough to power it from a suitable range like in the demo) If a different magnet was used in the demo it should be stated in subtitle or at least in the info pack. I hope Ben will "enlighten" us! I think that he should really start a private forum on this though. |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
That was one of the things that annoyed me. I feel really let down by this.
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
So lets get this straight. PLease correct if I'm wrong:
1. The spectator cannot look under the card when is levitating 2. The effect with the lady in the demo is impossible with the prescribed Magnet 3. The top cards cannot be looked at after the levitation :( please tell me I'm wrong cuz I feel like I have a "hole in the head" now. |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
1. Correct
2. I would say that's true, certainly when I have tried it, I have to be touching the cards. 3.Top CARD can |
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
I'm really thinking of cancelling my order now.
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king42262 New user 9 Posts |
Even if you could find a magnet powerful enough to perform this in the spectators hand allowing the spec to take the card while floating personaly I cannot see this working for those of you who have it will no what I mean !
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
Just as I said mate, no chance!
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king42262 New user 9 Posts |
Im sure some people will like this effect but for me I feel let down, after Hole in the Head I looked at this with caution but then after viewing the info pack I decide to give it a go !
The main effect that I bought this for to me and others now seems very unlikely so for me its a Thumbs Down!!!! |
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Well I really thought the spectator could look under the card and grab it out of the air because of these quotes found in this thread by Mr. Harris :
PAGE1 : The spectator may grab the floating card and look under it. They find nothing attached to the card. They find nothing under it. magic168 asked : So here's the big question for you, Ben...what would've happened if the woman did what any OTHER spectator would've done...look UNDERNEATH the card while it was floating in her hand? MR Harris Replied : Magic168 - the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video. The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be. (his capatalization ) ... |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
Well that end bit is an outright lie. the spec can NOT grab the card at any time and there IS something below the floating card.
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Tim Jahn Special user South Florida 911 Posts |
A qoute from Ben made in this thread over a month ago.
_________________________________________________________________________________ Hi Guys, There are tricky things being discussed here. Especially the "Can the spectator look under the card?" sort of questions. The answer is both YES and NO! You cannot look directly under the card while it is floating, you need your audience to be looking SLIGHTLY down upon the floating card. If you LOOK AT THE VIDEO DEMO you will get a good idea of the latitude allowable with the angles. However, that being said, the floating card my be grabbed, turned over, and examined at any time without discovering anything. So the answer is yes and no! Considering that the spectator just SHUFFLED the deck, nominated and removed ANY CARD, (and you have not added or taken away anything), is to me, more than sufficiently fair. Especially since your are automatically clean if the spectator grabs the card. Cheers Ben ______________________________________________________________________________ Tim
Andrew, (ASW)
The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart. Sincerely, Darwin Ortiz.......(This post has got to be in my top 5.) |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
'The answer is both YES and NO!' - really though, its no.
'the floating card my be grabbed, turned over, and examined at any time without discovering anything' - Seriously? I don't think so.... |
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Y2John Inner circle 1498 Posts |
Wait... you can't look under the card lol... I thought that was one of the things that made this what it is.
If not then why pay out for something that can be achieved with something costing in the pennies. I don't know... I was gonna order monday and so am happy this thread is here. |
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GarySumpter Special user UK 857 Posts |
Its one of those things that is a more advanced way of doing something that doesn't REALLY take the effect any further....
Seems everyone has been fooled by what they have read. |
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