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I posted this in the review section. Just some thoughts:

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I do not have Enlightenment at this time ( it's on its way ) so I'm only talking from a standpoint of how I've been thinking about it ( it's been in my head since Ben first shared the specs that he later shraed with everyone else ).

...and how I would react when getting it. I say that because so much in magic can be a sort of let down when the secret is known ( which is why we learn early not to divulge the secret as it always disappoints a lay person when they learn the secret ).

Dan Harlan's Hover Card, which I think is one of the greatest tricks ever invented, disappointed so many folks. Why? Because the card didn't really float and there was an angle issue, etc. If they had tried it in real time ( for lay folk ) they would have been surprised by the incredible reactions.

That being said, I think those that spent hard earned money on Enlightenment should practice and routine what they have and then perform it. What if you hated it when you opened the box, but the reactions you got from folks where worth 10 times the investment?

I think a subtle rise is the best. I was hoping it wouldn't be 5 inches off the card, or it would be easy right out of the box, etc. If we had the power to make that card "move" it should be a small movement. We should treat this like a PK effect and pour our acting into it.

The card, if it slightly moved by our minds would be a miracle. They will be shocked by the float. Doing the effect once, they will not loook under the card or try to figure it out. Ben mentioned the angles before releasing it.

Again, I don't have it yet, but I feel this is important in performing it:

1). Not your opening effect. WIn them over so they believe you can do some things that aren't just tricks.

2) Do Enlightenment and don't do it again ( the Magic second commandment ) One time only. You're too drained to repeat it. You don't know how you do it in the first place.

3) Do not perform for people you know that love to try and figure things out.

OK, I'm waiting for the Postman now!
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Posted three times so far!
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On 2008-05-10 16:32, GarySumpter wrote:
Posted three times so far!


Well, there are so many threads about this and I am saying that I posted elsewhere.

Are you implying something? If so, say it outright.
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Not at all, just keep seeing it spring up.
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On 2008-05-10 16:38, GarySumpter wrote:
Not at all, just keep seeing it spring up.


You'd have a point if I failed to say I posted it elsewhere.
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Wow,

Can't believe all of this.

Look guys, I have done everything I can to be fair and honest.

The effect is supplied with the Paradigm Shifter because this is the way I do it, how I use it. The effect in the video was performed with a paradigm shifter and other larger magnets. One was at the knee and activated the rise from behind. The effect can be performed in the spectator's own hand without any fear. If you want to activate the unit from a slightly greater distance, then use a stronger magnet. I've always said that.

This s a new way to go about using magnets to create levitation effects. Take it , grow it. I've given you my best shot. History will show the outcome.

If you don't like the effect, fair enough. But don't for one second imply that there has been any deliberate deception, because that just ****ing kills me.

Ben



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Perhaps you could comment on the questions in my review Ben?

Your reply could be the difference between the bin and the magic bag.
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Ben,

I am still waiting on my dealer to get Enlightenment (Thursday) and I am interested in your magnet set up with the paradigm shifter and the one at the knee. I know this was mentioned before, but I think a private forum would really benefit this effect.

Alternatively, could you PM me that setup? I'd like to get started with that as a soon as possible.

Still looking foward to Enlightenment, don't let anyone get you down.
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Ben ,
is there a size/strength magnet you could recommend for performing this in a spectators hand ?
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Looks like this effect will be a love it or hate variety.
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Yup...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Welll....this is one effect that was not hyped. Ben tipped the method, released the specs, answered quetsions, put out a video demo, etc. He was upfront about it all. If anyone finds that the effect isn't for them, that's one thing. But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.

TRY IT in peformance before saying you don't like it. Isn't that the fair thing to do?
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I agree. I respect everyone's opinion because that's what it is, an opinion. I don't think any magic effect, video or book has been released that has received pure praise and no hatred. But please, at least try it out on someone before coming to the conclusion that you don't like it.

Bottom line is, Ben gave us more information than anyone releasing an effect is required and THEN some. The hype was purely brought out by us, the magicians, who are excited about the effect. I for one stand by Ben - he took us all behind the scenes as much as he could without going overboard, and basically said 'take it or leave it'.

Deception? Lies? I don't think so.

Cheers, Ben! I can't wait to get one.
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'But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.'

Yes it is.

However, if you see my review thread, you will see why people have been mislead.
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Ben did release a plethora of information before its release, and he told us what it was about. granted not every excruciating detail was given, but the main ideas were presented and it was up to us to go from there. however, despite the disappoint of some lets not forget that its the spectators we are out to fool. and if it nails them hard, than the prop/effect has done its job.
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My two cents. I agree, that if you have been following the boards and blogs, enough info was given (way more than usual) about the methods and limitations of the effect that you would generally know what you were getting into. I also think there were enough questions left unanswered (buyer beware) that a person might think that limitations with previous floating card tricks had been completely solved and I do not think that is the case been (as per Sumpter review). I purchased and have received the effect. Although I have not tried it in front of an audience yet, I suspect that in some way or another I will. However, the in the spectators hand performance as seen in the video demo and implied in the ads I do not see as practical without significant "audience management" skills and a different magnet than the one being offered with the effect. Although again admitting I have not yet tried, it is hard to imagine giving a deck this gaffed out for a spectator to shuffle. Close reading of the ad copy may have made this clear, but I was surprised. It is also clearly not possible to remove any card from the top of the deck other than the one that was used for the effect. Additionally, although this is quite subjective, and although I purchased it with a clear mind, I do not believe it to be a particularly good value (bang for the buck). For such tricks I would look for the items that were mentioned repeatedly in the “best trick you bought this year thread.”
Although I hate to make an enemy of a guy I don’t know, I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it and he may be a decent and honest guy but I do not make my purchases based on his recommendations.
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On 2008-05-10 18:28, Xcath1 wrote:
....Although I hate to make an enemy of a guy I don’t know, I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it and he may be a decent and honest guy but I do not make my purchases based on his recommendations......


Xcath1, what product have I recommended, that you bought and didn't agree with me? Have I "plugged" as you claim, an item that you found did not work in the real world?

That might be a bit more fairer than to suggest there is an air of dishonesty about me by saying "I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it...."

If you have something to say about me, then say it. Playing silky word games sounds a bit...well, I'm sure you can put your finger on it.. You see, there are products I don't like and the friends of those people create anonymous accounts on the Café and make statements about me. I know, it seems childish because people that bought products I have used in the real world, and gave a positive review, have been quite pleased with their purchase.

On Enlightenment, I stated that Ben Harris contacted me to send me the specs on his new creation. Ben did that because he knows I do not care what anyone thinks about my reviews as my reputation for knowing "what works" means everything to me. He took a gamble before it was even released. He takes another when when I receive it.

I don't have the final Enlightenment product as Ben made sure that those that purchased it received it before I got the one he wanted me to review. That says allot about Ben's integrity.

When I get Enlightenment, I'll work on it, perform it and then report back. Maybe I'll hate it, maybe I'll love it. Maybe I'll have an opinion in between. But it will be my opinion based on performing it for people I don't know. Ben and I agreed that I would tell folks about Ben contacting me ( Ben's sugesstion ) and Ben made it clear that even though he was sending it to me, that my review was my own and that I owed him nothing. He siad "love it or hate, I want your honest opinion".

The Café review sections are allot like when news anchors "read the mail" after interviewing a Presidential candidate.. Half say the interviewer did a poor job and treated "xxx" like they were their friend, so they must be voting for them. The other half say the interviewer was far harsher on candidate "xxx" and must be voting for the other candidate. lol. It can't be both ways, now can it?

I guess people see what they want and then write words to support "their" argument, even if it accuses folks of phantoms that aren't there.
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the saddest are, "It might have been"

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On 2008-05-10 18:28, Xcath1 wrote:

Although I hate to make an enemy of a guy I don’t know, I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it and he may be a decent and honest guy but I do not make my purchases based on his recommendations.


I'd really like to hear what product you bought on Chris' recommendation that you didn't like.

On the contrary I have found Chris' reviews more that helpful on many occasions. He has always been more that honest and forthcoming about his feelings.

Now if we could please get back to the topic and hand, That would be super.

Tim
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After reading numerous posts of Chris's I can say if he doesn't like something he will say so. If he likes it he will praise it. I trust his opinion here more than some when a new product comes out and they praise it and they have 5 posts.
Keep up the good work Chris, who knows we might have a disagreement on this as mine has not arrived yet. We do agree on Hovercard.
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On 2008-05-10 17:37, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
Welll....this is one effect that was not hyped. Ben tipped the method, released the specs, answered quetsions, put out a video demo, etc. He was upfront about it all. If anyone finds that the effect isn't for them, that's one thing. But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.

Ditto!
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