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I am still having an issue with how close my hand needs to be to the deck. I've heard that it should start to levitate at 6 inches away from the deck. This just isn't so (in my experience). I've approached the deck from many directions and the best I've been able to do (with Ben's custom m****t) is way less than 2 inches away which seems to give away that it's my hand/finger that's activating the lift. Not very magical.
I've spend days and days reading posts, going through instructions, building the breather gimmick and practicing... but sadly it's going in the sock drawer.
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On 2008-06-17 07:30, marco1 wrote:
I am still having an issue with how close my hand needs to be to the deck.

* I've heard that it should start to levitate at 6 inches away from the deck. This just isn't so (in my experience). I've approached the deck from many directions and the best I've been able to do (with Ben's custom m****t) is way less than 2 inches away which seems to give away that it's my hand/finger that's activating the lift. Not very magical.

* I've spend days and days reading posts, going through instructions, building the breather gimmick and practicing... but sadly it's going in the sock drawer.


In magic one has to read the ad very carefully. Most ads are misleading to the fullest extent. It's a sad affair but one has to live with it. You must learn how to read between the lines and then take an informed decision.

One classic example of such an ad is on the Enlightenment Blog and probably the sole reason to your plight.

I had asked a very simple & specific question. The answer to my query was posted at the Blog. Please refer to the blog - "(April 23, 2008) Further Paradigm Shifter Info".

My query :-

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On 2008-04-22 12:21, Ustaad wrote:

Just to get a comparative idea (for different size drive magnets):-

When using the suggested Paradigm Shifter magnet, what is the average distance (distance between the edge of the card deck & the magnet) at which the Enlightenment Engine gets activated?


OK, my question was answered at the blog. It was interesting to solve the circles so as to get the linier measurements. Smile

I have one more question please.

How many bicycle cards can be lifted by the Enlightenment Engine when the Paradigm Shifter magnet is placed at the 6 inch circle border (periphery)?


The answer that was given (on the blog) was in its true sense & meaning was right-on and true to every word but totally misleading for the novice.

"The Shifter activates the Enlightenment Engine when it is correctly positioned between 4" and 6" from the Engine assembly".

When one physically draws the diagram to scale (the easiest way to get your answer) you will find that the suggested Paradigm Shifter Magnet can levitate a card (a single card) from a meager distance of 0.5 to 1.5 inches from the edge of the card deck. And that’s the time I took a decision that the ‘Enlightenment’ was not for me & I developed my own magnetic lifting device (which I shared with a few of my friends here at the Café) costing just a buck and which could be very easily tuned to ones own needs/ requirements.

Hope this helps you in better understanding the Magical Advertisements in the future.

I feel sorry for you.

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"In magic one has to read the ad very carefully. Most ads are misleading to the fullest extent."

I've been doing magic for over 30 years and thought I had asked myself (as well as the inventor} all the logical questions and still got stuck.

I had such high expectations, too.

(sigh)
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Well, if you use a LARGER magnet and strap it to your leg...you can levitate a card from a distance of 6-10 inches from your leg. That is good enough for me.
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Marco,

You could just email me via the blog and I could have helped.

Try bringing the magnet in at a slightly LOWER angle. If you think of an imaginary line between your nose and the deck, this is the correct approach path.

Ustaad,

The diagram at the blog is an "illustration" not to scale, I just drew it quickly to convey the general distances. Sorry if it led you astray.

The UNIT is activated from a good 4" to 6" away is correct. This is when the levitation can "start." To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first.

There may be some people having a little bit of a problem with getting everything exact, but, that's what's going to happen when you have thousands of these "out there" and a demographic of 14-75.

The wonderful thing about a board like The Magic Café is that it allows us to assist each other in "almost real time."

See http://www.online-visions.com for a thorough and detailed review.


Cheers everyone.

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Ustaad,

* The diagram at the blog is an "illustration" not to scale, I just drew it quickly to convey the general distances. Sorry if it led you astray.

* The UNIT is activated from a good 4" to 6" away is correct. This is when the levitation can "start."


Dear Mr. Harris,

Please allow me to quote Marco1 once again.

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On 2008-06-17 07:30, marco1 wrote:
I am still having an issue with how close my hand needs to be to the deck. I've heard that it should start to levitate at 6 inches away from the deck. This just isn't so (in my experience). I've approached the deck from many directions and the best I've been able to do (with Ben's custom m****t) is way less than 2 inches away which seems to give away that it's my hand/finger that's activating the lift. Not very magical.

I've spend days and days reading posts, going through instructions, building the breather gimmick and practicing... but sadly it's going in the sock drawer.


Reading the highlighted portion one can very well understand the plight of Marco1. It pains you when you read something like this.

You’re well aware of the many people who have complained about the activating distance between the shift magnet and the edge of the card deck being very less. The primary reason for this was the misleading diagram posted at the blog.

I do understand that the illustration at the blog is not to scale. I also understand how to convert a rough diagram to scale. I would not like to reiterate what I have said in my preceding post which is self explanatory. The activation distance of 4 to 6 inches is correct when taken from the centre of the deck as shown in the diagram. But most (almost everyone) did think (I presume) that the activation of 4 to 6 inches was from the shift magnet to the front edge of the card deck and that lead to the dissatisfaction of your esteemed customers.

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* To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first.


Sorry, I beg to differ on this point. The solution to the problem doesn’t lie in using a bigger & stronger shift magnet. It lies within the Enlightenment gimmick. With a slight increase in the strength of the Enlightenment gimmick it will cause the gimmick to rise from a greater distance using the same suggested shift magnet. But this might not be possible to do in a prefabricated ‘Enlightenment’ gimmick.

By piggy backing a second shift magnet on the first, the magnet will convert into a 1 inch CUBE which is a bit impractical to handle/ use.

I am sorry incase you felt I was a bit curt, but that is what I felt about the whole affair.

Thank you.

With kind regards,

Narendra

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I think Ben has shown an extreme amount of patience in dealing with criticism from those who don't even own the effect. In fact, I think that's an understatement.

My suggestion is... buy "Enlightenment" in the custom installed deck, experiment with it, and *then* report back with your findings.

Personally, I think this is about the coolest thing I've ever seen as far as levitating cards go. ;-)

Robert
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Ustaad, if you read what I said, it was...

"To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first."

I said MOTOR magnet. That's the one in the gimmick, NOT the Paradigm Shifter.
See the Floating Car application (using a massively upscaled installation, of course) in an up and coming TV special.

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On 2008-06-18 01:20, Ben Harris wrote:
Ustaad, if you read what I said, it was...

"To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first."

I said MOTOR magnet. That's the one in the gimmick, NOT the Paradigm Shifter.
See the Floating Car application (using a massively upscaled installation, of course) in an up and coming TV special.

Cheers

Ben


Dear Mr. Harris,

Oh! OK. I'm very sorry, my bad.

While this will increase the thickness of the pack slightly but it will do wonders in terms of lifting distance. It will help increase the distance to almost 1.5 to 1.7 times.

Cheers & kind regards,

Narendra

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On 2008-06-17 21:34, Robert M wrote:
I think Ben has shown an extreme amount of patience in dealing with criticism from those who don't even own the effect. In fact, I think that's an understatement.

My suggestion is... buy "Enlightenment" in the custom installed deck, experiment with it, and *then* report back with your findings.

Personally, I think this is about the coolest thing I've ever seen as far as levitating cards go. ;-)

Robert


I know if I came up this I wouldn't have been as patient as Ben. I'm not even patient with things I didn't come up with.

Part of the fun of this is just playing around on your own ( similar to other human activity I guess ).

I agree about getting it with one of the custom decks. It makes a difference unelss you're a good crafter and even then, Ben's KNOWS the product, so his decks are works of art. Get one of those before making your own.
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"I agree about getting it with one of the custom decks. It makes a difference unelss you're a good crafter and even then, Ben's KNOWS the product, so his decks are works of art."

My construction skills are quite good and my deck came out perfect. It's just that this thing does NOT start to levitate no matter what the angle until I'm within 1.5 inches from the front edge of the deck! I even tried a hugh rare earth magnet measuring 4x6 inches x 1 inch thick... and it started to lift at around 4 inches away. I can't imagine how anyone, without adding extra stuff to the in-deck motor magnet, is able to get lift at 4-6 inches away from the front of the deck's edge. Is anyone truely getting this result??

Let me also say that Ben was gracious enough to answer a number of private emails, trying to help... but sadly in the end, and $125 later, it just does not perform as expected. Perhaps, I should send Ben a few photographs showing the various angles I've held the PS magnet, in relation to the deck and he'll see what I'm seeing... no lift! (until I'm practically on top of it).
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Hi Marco,

Let me send you a CID. Do I have your address details? With internet names, I get confused. I just have to much too do. I don't have the time to search the sales records (if I can avoid it). So, ensure I have your address and I'll get one off to you FREE by AIRMAIL.

Cheers mate

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Ben,

Many thanks. Very generous of you.
Fingers crossed that it makes a difference.

Cheers
Marco
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Just to reiterate, I have had tremendous success with larger magnets. My 2" X 2" X 1/2" N42 at the sternum gives me an activation distance of about 6-8" between my body and the deck's edge. My 2" X 1" X 1/2" N52 at the kneecap, gives me about 5-7".
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I have also had great success expanding the activation distance by replacing the engine magnet with a 1"x1/2"x1/8" N50 magnet. See Ben's Blog for futher details. I did have to increase the size of my organic block to accommodate the thicker engine magnet.

I have also had great success with my CID using a 2"x2"x1/2" N52 magnet which you can simply keep in your pants pocket. If you perform this sitting you can initiate the activation of the engine by placing the deck above the magnet in your pocket and then use the paradigm shifter to continue driving the magnet. At this point you can actually remove the hand with the paradigm shifter and with just a slight downward movement of the deck the card will remain floating since the larger pocket magnet will be able to maintain the float. Combining two different sources for the drive magnet will totally throw off your spectators as there won't be one consistent source of movement or body part that they will be able to tie to the levitation. Using two magnets will also enable you to drive the levitation from a further distance using the standard Paradigm Shifter.

Cheers!

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Bill, That is great thinking! Well done.

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Yes, great idea. I can't wait to try some things out with multiple magnets now.
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That's a whole "Lhotta" cool, Bill.

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On 2008-05-20 22:47, jamie9 wrote:
I just got this today and now my gimmick is completely broken. I broke it within 5 minutes of opening the pakage. My magnet got too close again and bent it open passed 90 degrees and it does work anymore. Im pretty disapointed. Hopefully I can send it back.


In exactly the same boat as jamie,but the front hinge broke as well. be carefull when you first recieve this!! Version 2 could do with being more robust or having a spare carcuss
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I have a question. Do the cid's come with a gimmick?
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