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I've been snowed-under with work for the past couple of months and haven't had the chance to catch-up on my internet surfing. It's always interesting to trawl through Youtube - although there's plenty of stuff there that isn't worth watching, there are the occasional gems. Anyway, I found three great cups & balls routines this week that I think are well worth a look:

Michael Vincent
Nick Nickolas
David Williamson

The latter is interesting because until now I thought that that particular 'kicker' load was only done once for the benefit of magicians at a convention.

Richard
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Michael Vincent is very good magician. I love his vanishes. I wish I could do the wand spin the way he does it(i think he does it better than Vernon and Ammar).
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Three severely different styles - Awesome!
God's grace rocks! It makes a good cups and balls routine look pretty boring in comparison.
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I believe I found the WORST version of the cups and balls (can't believe he call himself a magician).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QeGdUpZZ......&search=
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Actually that's Cellini's routine and I thought he did an ok job considering it seemed to be on "TV" with no audience to interact with.

What about it seemed so horrible? I've seen a lot of cups routines that were just awful. I would not put this in that category. His presentation was a bit "smarmy" perhaps but I didn't see anything glaringly bad.

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There are worse out there. While we can criticize some awkward moves and telegraphed loads, this performance would probably be received very well by a lay audience.

For me the bottom line is " ARE PEOPLE ENTERTAINED?" I don't think it serves any purpose to label someone as " THE WORST " at anything. If a person needs help with his performance why not seek him out and offer some suggestions in a kind manner. Why put their performance on this forum to shame them?

I think it goes against purpose of this forum to move magic forward and aid one another in moving it forward. Wht tear someone down? I hurt for this guy that this was done to him. I don't think he deserves it !
God's grace rocks! It makes a good cups and balls routine look pretty boring in comparison.
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On 2007-07-24 23:53, Pete Biro wrote:
Check this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ic9qpdN4......&search=


The others linked in this thread are very entertaining, but that one's a thing of beauty.
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Was it just me or was Nick Nickolas' routine...not that good (for a Gazzo based routine)? His false passes seem to be just him punching his dirty fist against the clean one's palm. And his loading from the Gibecière seemed incredibly obvious. He has great confidence in all of his moves so I am wondering if this was just a bad performance.

Or maybe I have just lost the ability to look at cups performances through spectators eyes.

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No misdirection on loads from pouch bothered me.
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Nick's routine is incredible from a spectator's eyes. Especially if you see the entire thing and how it relates to his whole act.

I've not seen one that I'd rather watch over and over for pure entertainment value.
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I thought his loads from the pouch were very good too. It's always a bit more obvious when you know what's going on.

The entertainment's the thing - and the audience were there with him all the way.
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I have now seen five (5) students/clones of Gazzo and NONE come close to the original.
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On 2007-07-25 13:07, padre rich wrote:
There are worse out there. While we can criticize some awkward moves and telegraphed loads , this performance would probably be recieved very well by a lay audience. For me the bottom line is " ARE PEOPLE ENTERTAINED?" I don't think it serves any purpose to label someone as " THE WORST " at anything. If a person needs help with his performance why not seek him out and offer some suggestions in a kind manner. Why put their performance on this forum to shame them. I think it goes against purpose of this forum to move magic forward and aid one another in moving it forward. Wht tear someone down? I hurt for this guy that this was done to him. I don't think he deserves it !


I want to apologize for what I´ve done. I think padre rich is right in everything.

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On 2007-07-25 12:50, Frank Starsini wrote:
Actually that's Cellini's routine and I thought he did an ok job considering it seemed to be on "TV" with no audience to interact with.

What about it seemed so horrible? I've seen a lot of cups routines that were just awful. I would not put this in that category. His presentation was a bit "smarmy" perhaps but I didn't see anything glaringly bad.

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I would not like to keep going on this, I respect your point of view, I may be wrong but I don't think his presentation, his tip over load, his false transfer, his wand spin and his final loads were an "ok job".
Anyway I shoud never use the words I did , so I apologize again.
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Just talking about the sleights themselves...

Well, I agree with you about the tip-over loads.

I didn't see the false xfers flashing and the wand spin might not be exactly vernon's but I don't see that it detracts from the routine.

Let me know if you feel differently.
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Nick's routine was great. Loved his energy in performing it. Funny guy as well.

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Thanks for posting Richard - I am stranded in an airport and was grumpy, and those clips cheered me up. Cups and Balls is still my favorite. I really liked Michael's. And no one can touch Gazzo, but Nick looks like he knows how to entertain a crowd quite well.
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Personally I was more impressed with Nick's routine. Much more impressed. As in "MUCH".
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Nick's routine is one of the most entertaining I have seen. Gazzo does a great job, but Nick's Forshadowing and Call-back of his loads makes his routine something out of the ordinary.

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I've also not seen Gazzo's whole act so I'm judging only from seeing his cups and balls routine. I should have stated that in the previous post.

My apologies.
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