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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts 
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On 2007-10-08 22:27, simsalabim wrote: Carlo: Don't flatter yourself. I know exactly what you meant. You make many statements that are really unfounded and unprovable.
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simsalabim New user 41 Posts
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On 2007-12-10 21:28, Bill Palmer wrote: I am lost. Why do you come back to this now? And could you give me a couple of examples of my unfounded and unprovable statements (otherwise your own statement is meaningless) Carlo |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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I'm sorry, but I would imagine that if what Chris said that Dr Hooker said (third hand sure, but) if it is true with regards to his intentions with creating his card rise, then this ebook is exactly the type of speculation that he intended for.
Whether or not he meant for people to profit from their speculation is another issue, but given that the main focus of the book seems to be the history of it all, that, perhaps, should not be the concern. And by the way, hasn't the Indian Rope Trick ONLY been written about by people who have NOT seen it? 
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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If I invented something and only showed 1 person and one of their friends heard about it, I would have no problem with him guessing the method. those guesses might be close, they might be far off, either way he's still just guessing and unless he actually guesses the method AND I confirm that he is in fact correct, who cares??? (sorry for the run on sentence) Also if Dr. Hooker was wanting people to venture out of the norm and to start thinking oustide of the box, would not Dr. Hooker expect people to use his rising card as an example and start to deconstruct the method? apparently he's done something that no one else has and to date has never been confirmed if the correct solution has been guessed. but you know what? it has stimulated the minds of people which is exactly what he set out to do. mission accomplished I'd say. AND to boot, the hooker family is working with Chris and giving him permission to publish information they have provided him. The Hooker family knows what this ebook is about and what Dr. Hooker wanted to accomplish and they fully support Chris in this endeavor. If any of you have a problem with that, please call or write to the Hooker family your concerns. Otherwise, you guys are barking up the wrong tree and need to move on. Thank you for your time.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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Wait, they support his book?
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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According to this post, yes.
Quote: On 2007-10-09 04:01, Chris wrote:
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts
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Whats interesting to me, is complaining about people speculating about your book on the speculation of card trick.
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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Ya, I wouldn't complain. I would just present the facts and let everything fall where it may
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Chris Inner circle lybrary.com 1178 Posts
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I released an updated version of my Hooker Rising Card ebook which includes two new important pieces:
1) I have inserted photos and a more detailed description of my Lego prototype which can replicate the core effects exactly. 2) A reprint of a very good and detailed effect description by Bill Miesel from his Precursor journal from January 1994. There are a number of other smaller additions and corrections. However the fact that I can now replicate with my apparatus most of the effects surrounding the houlette is quite satisfying. The method might be different to what Hooker uses, but the effect is exactly the same with the same conditions like deck borrowed shuffled etc. I should also add that the Hooker family has not only given me permission to reproduce certain private documents, they have also commented very positively on the ebook they have received from me. They are pleased that somebody is telling the Hooker story. Ebook is available at http://www.lybrary.com/samuel-hooker-rising-cards-p-680.html
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Ken Northridge Inner circle Atlantic City, NJ 2393 Posts
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11 years since the last post on this. Curious to know if there have been any developments on this effect.
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Ken Northridge Inner circle Atlantic City, NJ 2393 Posts
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No news in 11 years?
Mike Caveney talked about it on The Magicians' Podcast. Greater Magic (A large book of secrets) describes it, but offers no explanation! I'm surprised Copperfield never pursued the rights to this.
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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts
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On Aug 13, 2019, Ken Northridge wrote: Perhaps because it is of very limited appeal. Sometimes we magicians get enamored with something and it take on a life of its own. How many "normal" people buy old playing cards at $500.00 a pop? But magicians sure did after they were hyped to death. Similar thing here.
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