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scottds80
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I live in Australia. The money here is not paper, but plastic. I would like to perform an effect where I borrow a bill from an audience member, have them sign it and at this point I would do a switch for a copied bill.

I fold the bill and proceed to burn it absolutely visually without envelopes. Then of course, a revelation from a lemon or whatever one can imagine.

I know most people from here aren't Aussies, but what do you think about this idea for your own country? Legal issues and all.
"Great Scott the Magician", Gippsland
mrunge
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Here (USA), it's illegal to copy, deface or destroy currency.

Do people do it anyway? Heck NO!!! Smile

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I am not sure if the law has been changed, but as recently as 2004, the US Copyright law requires all reproductions of legal currency be either smaller (less than 3/4 the size of the original) or larger (more than 1-1/2 times the original size) but it cannot be double sided. Formerly it was restricted to black-and-white only, but reproduction in color is now allowed.

Also, there used to be a provision allowing exceptions for "numismatic or educational purposes."

Please note that these laws cover actual photocopying of REAL currency, not the printing of any kind of fake and not-legal-tender paper money.

If anyone else has an update of what's allowed and what's not, please let us know!

TED
scottds80
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Also what about flash bills? I have never seen them before. Are they an exact duplicate?

An Indian politician magician was arrested for doing this. News article is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4713116.stm
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Where does it say that the politician was ARRESTED in that story?

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Maybe he misspoke since it says, several times, that they demanded the magician be arrested. Could be he was reading (incorrectly) between the lines.

Hmmm...Interesting story though.

Mark.
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I misread the fact he was only "demanded" to be arrested. But nevertheless, my point being that copying and then burning currency can land one in an awkward situation.

I am amused at the ending to this article:
Mr Chary also denied the banknote was burned. He told the BBC it was like demanding a murder charge for the magician's trick of cutting a person in two and then producing them alive.
"Great Scott the Magician", Gippsland
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I like the ending of the story as well. That's a great analogy.

And by the way Scott...welcome to the Café!

Mark. Smile
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Thanks very much mrunge! It's nice to be welcomed. I find these forums a gem and hope to share a lot with other likeminded magicians. Smile
"Great Scott the Magician", Gippsland
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On a side note the 100 rupee is only worth about $1.50 American. At least that was the rate when I was over there. It was 44 to 1. Crazy when you think you can buy a bottle of water for a quarter US.

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Oops that should have read closer to $2.25. I have no idea what I was thinking. LOL
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