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Darkwing
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I know in Jeff McBride's Manipulation video, he says to wash your Fakini billard balls in cold water. My problem is my billiard balls, which are white, seem to start looking like they are a little off white. Is there any thing I can do to get them the brillant white again?
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Hey Darkwing,
I have tried and ruined many a Fakini. Everything from bleach (which will work but you have to be careful), CLR, even sandpaper, you name it. After years of trial and error I finally found the solution, literally....soak it in hydrogen peroxide. 15 minutes usually does it but some times it takes a bit longer.

Jason
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Just like to understand further, Jason. How does hydrogen peroxide help? Bring back the white or the shine or both?
JasonBaney
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Hey James,

It restores the color back to white.
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Thanks, Jason. That would be a good solution for the white Fakinis then.

Will it work for the colored Fakini balls?
Darkwing
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Jason,

What a great idea. I did a little research on hydrogen peroxide (in my real daytime job, I sell process valves and instrumentation to the chemical industry}.

Hydrogen peroxide is a weak acid and oxidizer. The concentration of H2O2 found in a drug store is around 2.5%, so it is pretty weak. It is used to clean blood and other stains thus is the reason it cleans the dirt and stains off the balls. I did a material compatibility study on silicone with H2O2 and silicone is rated as an excellent "wetted material" for H2O2, so no problem with material break down with the compound.

Hope that helps and thank you for your post.

David
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Hmmmm, I wonder if hydrogen peroxide would work with D'lites? I've never found anything that works so I'm gonna give it a try if I can figure out a way to soak only the outside.

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Regan,

Check out what material the thumb tip is made of before you use peroxide.

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Hey Darkwing,
Thanks for the peroxide information. That was very helpful. Do you think it would be equally effective and safe on the fakini shell? My shell is discolored in spots & maybe a little scuffed. Any thoughts...
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Hey James,
A BIG Yes on the colored billard question.
JasonBaney
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Hey all,
Yes the hydrogen peroxide will clean the colored balls as well. Basically any silicone ball; manip or juggling. Glad I could help.
Nell
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Frank Radtke( Fakini) told me just last week to use Dawn dishsoap and warm water to clean both balls and the shells. It shouldn't effect the color and keeps the balls naturally-tacky to the touch. If you ever have questions, you can always give him a call: 419.822.3386.
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On 2007-08-06 10:53, Darkwing wrote:
Regan,

Check out what material the thumb tip is made of before you use peroxide.

David


Thanks David. I have some old D'Lites that no longer work, or are so stained that it really won't hurt anything to give it a try.
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Hey Everyone,
Be careful of the hydrogen peroxide. I soaked my fakini balls in the peroxide for 15 min. and the three of them came out with a yellow tint. Not good! I let the three soak another 10 min. and it didn't help.

I have five fakini's. Three and the shell were bought together, and then I recently added a fourth and a color change ball. The two new additions cleaned up fine. I think it was the older set that reacted poorly to the hydrogen peroxide. I wonder what made the difference. They were slightly dull before I started, now I would call them discolored. Not happy!
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Thanks, Tony, for letting us know about this. I guess the Fakinis that we need cleaning have been with us for some time and would not like them to discolor as you have experienced.

Just wondering why the new balls come out fine while the older ones have this reaction?
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I've had my current Fakini's for at least 5 years and they turn out fine. I actually have to clean mine on a regular basis of at least once a month. I would guess Tonys' set had something else on them before he put them in the peroxide which caused the reaction.
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It's been four years since the use of hydrogen peroxide was discussed, what's the long term verdict on this. Do you guys still use it to bring back the whiteness of your Fakini billiard balls or have other methods proven more satisfactory?

Bob
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When I first moved to the US from Europe, I moved to the Toledo, Ohio area and got to know many great magicians there, including Frank Radtke. He was a good friend of mine for a long time. I have just about every color of silicon balls he produced, including a few prototype/trial colors that never made it to market. I have always used Dawn dish soap on my sets and their shells, and all these years later, they are still shiny and brilliant. Best of all, the tack is still there.

Just so all late readers of this thread are aware, Frank passed away in November of 2009, so the telephone number given by Nell is no longer effective.
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