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closeupcardician Special user Justin Teeman Moore, OK 602 Posts 
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Derek Delgaudio does about the best In-the-hands false riffle/waterfall shuffle I've seen. (Karl Hein should cry, no disrespect whatsoever toward him. I use his shuffle often but Derek's has to be seen to be believed.) Sadly, I don't think his is in print. You might also want to check out Eric Anderson's "Shuffle-esque"
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Cain Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 1553 Posts
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I do "Shuffle-esque," mostly because it is one of the easier in the hands false riffle shuffles to execute. I have tried the Heinstein Shuffle, but it was off-putting for two reasons: 1) It's difficult; 2) I could already do a false-in-the-hands riffle shuffle. Honestly, once the cards bridge most people are not even paying attention any longer, but if I could choose to do one, then it would be Heinstein's. It's just more deceptive.
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amc New user 61 Posts
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Thanks everyone. Does anybody know of any video clips that feature Derek Delgaudio's shuffle, or Eric Anderson's Shuffle-esque?
Also, how do these compare to Heinstein in the 'angley' stakes? I have since read that although Heinstein is a great shuffle (and I will probably learn it anyway), table workers, for example, would find it difficult to get away with since the audience are sitting down and watch from a totally different angle. Most of the time, I would be standing, and I expect my audience would be too, but it would be nice to know each shuffle's limitations before I invest a lot of time in learning any particular one. |
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panimen New user 91 Posts
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On 2007-08-06 07:01, amc wrote: Keep in mind that a table false riffle shuffle would probably be more appropriate for a table setting anyway. That's just my way of thinking though, others may prefer in-the-hands riffle/waterfall shuffles even when using a table. For me, I like to use the Zarrow Shuffle whenever I am working with a table and the Heinstein when standing. |
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Justin R Veteran user 303 Posts
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Quote: Is that book out of print too? It seems to be hard to find.
On 2007-08-05 12:07, S.Segal wrote: |
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amc New user 61 Posts
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Sorry. You're quite right. When I posted that, I somehow forgot the expression I was looking for which was 'Table Hopping'. In the situation where I am sitting at a table, then I would opt for the Zarrow shuffle, that's true. I meant the situation where I am standing at a table and the spectators are sitting around it, watching me. When the table is full of other things, or if a part of the table is hard for all to see, then I wouldn't want to bend down to shuffle the cards using the table because nobody would be able to see a thing. |
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closeupcardician Special user Justin Teeman Moore, OK 602 Posts
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Eric Anderson's Shuffle-Esque can be seen on Oz Pearlman's "Watch Magic" DVD. He uses it in his great in-the-hands triumph entitled... "Emerge Triumphant"
Hope this helps.
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panimen New user 91 Posts
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Amc, oh I see what you mean now. The slight dip of the Heinstein Shuffle can be lowered or raised depending on the eye level of the audience. So if your spectators are seated, you can simply tilt your hands more during the unweaving action for less exposure. I understand that if there is a table in front of you, you may not want to lower your hands to the point that they are hidden underneath the table. But then again, the dipping action only happens momentarily and you can simply raise your hands back up during the riffle. The spectators wouldn't care much that your hands were briefly out-of-view. As long as they see the riffle, they would regard it as a legitimate shuffle.
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Jake Austin Loyal user Colorado Springs 237 Posts
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I recommend Shuffle-Esque as well. You can see Pearlman use it in the following link:
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=794
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mikethemagish New user 48 Posts
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I like the Karl Hein shuffle. I could do it pretty good after not a whole lot of practice. It looks convining and sounds good too.
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cyril21 New user 3 Posts
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Actually I would know since I am a CARD EXPERT and I preform magic shows for kids I'm 14 and basically what you have to do for complex card tricks is to use a lot of words pop magic color changes and if ure gonna let em pick a card say remember this card and usually I tell them to sign it they usually just draw a scribble lol but tehy know its thier card
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bouche Regular user 146 Posts
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Cyril 21,
I think you meant to post under the 'card magic for kids' topic. I agree with Bishthemagish. Paul LePaul's shuffle is convincing and I find the strip out easier than other techniques. |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts
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Thanks bouche I am glad to see that there are some magicians that have read the card magic of LePaul. To me it is my 2nd favorite card book. Next to Erdnase that is.
There is some great table shuffle work in the LePaul book plus up the ladder. Often I feel that it has been skipped over today but to me the book is a gem.
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amc New user 61 Posts
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Card magic of LePaul is the very next book on my list in any case.
To put your mind at rest bishthemagish, I already own a copy of erdnase! Thanks to brokin6 and Mike H - I'd be very interested to see Mike's shuffle also. I think I was halfway to devising a shuffle similar to shuffle-esque, but I was just struggleing with working a strip-out onto the end whlie making it look natural. I'm not blessed with great strip-out skills, so I'm leaning more towards the Heinstein shuffle right now. |
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Ben Train Inner circle Erdnase never had 4639 Posts
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On 2007-08-07 17:27, amc wrote: It's simply something you develop over time. Don't give up- I think it is one of the most important concepts in magic.
If you're reading this you're my favourite magician.
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Aaron Isaacs Regular user 123 Posts
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The Heinstein Shuffle is in print in the April 2001 Issue of Genii magazine.
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Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2986 Posts
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I had a chance to hang out with Karl Hein at the Abbotts Get Together in Colon MI last week. His shuffle is totally deceptive. I had spent a bit of time learning it from the video tape. Karl was kind enough to spend some time showing me the fine points. They are taught on the tape but it was great to have someone watch and advise. The Heinstein Shuffle gets my highest recommendation as an in the hands false shuffle.
Karl also showed a version of Flash Cash (Hundy 500) that is far superior to any that I have seen. I think he sells a DVD that has this handling. I am in the process of obtaining it now. Check out Karl's sandwich routine recently published in either MAGIC or GENII. Very cool! Mike
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S.Segal Special user San Diego 949 Posts
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On 2007-08-06 12:52, Justin R wrote: As far as I know, the book is OOP. You may want to scour Ebay or try contacting either David Harkey or Eric Anderson. Maybe H & R Books has a copy or two left? S.Segal |
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