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mitchb2
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If you have a servante attached to your closeup table/pad, do spectators see it when you are packing up, and just figure it's for storage?

Or does it need to remain secret?
JamesTong
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Allowing them to see the servant will make them suspect all kind of things. I would not reveal it at all.
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I do not think it is that important if they see it.. unless special attention is brought about it as you pack up.

Folks don't know what it is anyway.. So.. what could they possible think.

"OH!!! so that's how he did it?" Did what?? They don't know what it is for or when/how it was used..
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Andy the cardician
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James is absolutely right . . . when they discover something, they might pour their suspicion on it
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James is right, some people are very suspicious, BUT if they catch a glimpse of your servante while you are packing up, then allow them to see into it. They will realize that it can only hold things and it isn't how you found their chosen card.

Or you could just lie to them, and tell them that you keep an extra deck of cards in there in case your deck gets ruined. You could also tell them that you keep coins, a pen, a handkercheif, etc. in there just in case you need to do a trick.
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It is about as inportant as not letting people seeing a shelf in your table. Inportant for some, not inportant for others.

For the most part, I can not imagine why you would want them to see it at all.

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On 2007-08-08 19:42, matt kemp wrote:
James is right, some people are very suspicious, BUT if they catch a glimpse of your servante while you are packing up, then allow them to see into it. They will realize that it can only hold things and it isn't how you found their chosen card.

Or you could just lie to them, and tell them that you keep an extra deck of cards in there in case your deck gets ruined. You could also tell them that you keep coins, a pen, a handkercheif, etc. in there just in case you need to do a trick.


I have changed my mind completely. I am a hobbyist so I only show my friends and family my magic, and a few of them have seen my shelf under my table after I'm done and they tell me that they know that the final loads come from that shelf. I try to tell them otherwise, but they don't buy it. So, you should keep your servante hidden.
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Matt:

Once the audience has formed their own perception, they will not believe in anything you try to tell them. You cannot change their mind after that.
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As far as a servante is concerned don't make a big deal about about but don't come right out and show it off either. If you make too much effort to hide something it is just as bad or worse than announcing that you have it.

on another note:

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JamesTong said:
Once the audience has formed their own perception, they will not believe in anything you try to tell them. You cannot change their mind after that.


It would be extremely hard at that moment I agree... and you are right, they won't believe anything you merely /tell/ them. But what if you show them?

Let me relate what happened to me once: a lady where I work that once announced with authority that everything magicians produce and vanish goes up their sleeves. She went on to say that without sleeves they couldn't do any of that stuff. I, wearing short sleeves and "bare handed," produced a silk handkerchief and then proceeded to vanish it again. Her mouth gaped open. She was totally astounded. How could I have done that? I didn't have any sleeves for it come from and go back into. She later told me she never would have believed it if she hadn't seen it with her own eyes.
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Servante and/or black art wells should not be exposed to the spectators. Plan ahead as to how to keep from exposing them. These steps should be as important as the performance itself.

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It is possible to conceal and camouflage servantes and wells to appear to be something else. They don't always have to take the traditional form. Check out my "Visible Invisible Well" article in The Wizards' Journal #9 (on my site).
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