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Traveler
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Strange people, customers...
Even though I clearly have a ouija board on my promo material, even though everything about me communicates that I'm not a "normal" magician (contradictio in terminis, I know), I still get requests for
a) big, loug parties
b) childrens parties
c) strolling

My question is : how do you deal with such requests : do you "make" a program for them or do you succeed in steering them in the direction of what you DO offer (ok, not for children, but still).
I'd prefer the latter option, but I'm not sure how to convince people who had something ENTIRELY different in their mind. You could also plainly refuse or refer to a colleague, of course.

I wonder... some "bizarrists" like Michael Fraughton are said to perform for only 20 persons at the time. So it must be possible.

Since this artform is not mainstream I think this is the hardest part of it, since there are nearly no precedents...
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If you are in the 'biz' and making money is part of your plan...adapt a seperate act so as not to turn down any of it...Result: afford more weird stuff. Smile

If you are in it for your 'art' then get to know someone who can trade leads with you when they get one for a Ouija Board show.
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If you are in it for your 'art' then get to know someone who can trade leads with you when they get one for a Ouija Board show.


LOL ! Somehow I was aware THAT ain't going to happen very often. But it's true that I'm in it for the art, not for the "biz". I'm not a full-timer, neither do I want to be one.
I guess I'm trying to open customers minds for alternative entertainment. Which works, but too many people expect... well coins out of ears and such...
What I'm trying to say is that, over here, magic has some kind of "stigma" that is hard to remove and it prevents - not from doing shows - but from doing the shows I want to do.
Aaah, perhaps I don't make myself clear at all. Typical for teachers, I fear.

BTW, Doug, any idea where good weird stuff can be bought, in case I go for your first option ?
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I regularly perform bizarre magick for big, loud parties, children's parties, and strolling...
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Read Win the Crowd by Steve Cohen and decide -> sometimes it is better to focus on some areasd than to be all trying to do all things
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Dr. Spektor ,
I read that... It was this book that started me thinking along these lines.

Philemon. That's surprising. I've never heard about people doing solely bizarre while strolling. Isn't it hard to set the mood when you can barely be understood ?
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Absolute Magic by Derren would be good too. Even Derren admit's....sometimes you gotta just be an entertainment monkey...not matter how much you hate.

But, if you're in a good groove with a crowd and you really have them on your side, in a strolling situation for example. You can then gently bring them into your world.

So, maybe find a balance you can work with.
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On 2007-08-07 13:04, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote:
I regularly perform bizarre magick for big, loud parties, children's parties, and strolling...


Yup I believe Gene Poinc did as well...
For as long as space exists,
And living beings remain in cyclic existence,
For that long, may I too remain,
to dispel the sufferings of the world.
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If you don't mind performing the normal stuff, I would say work up a separate act with a little Bizarre in it, then use that to promote your full bizarre act to those attending. Sort of introduce them to it and see what happens.
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First, one would have to DEFINE what IS "Bizarre."










K I D D I N G (screams bloody helll) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

leland, jonathan, chmara, bill, egergor, mystician, GET BACK IN THE DUNGEON!


ehem.

I perform in childrens hospitals and just bring my cups and balls. Oh, and "that look in my eye"....
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I think the easiest path to success is to work on one act - just look at me!*G* I only have seven different acts . . . . And I may well be the most successful Magician in Garner, NC! LOL

I am trying to do bizarre kiddie magic with my "Thad S. Gross" site. I will start pushing it next month.
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On 2007-08-07 21:26, Gede Nibo wrote:
I perform in childrens hospitals and just bring my cups and balls. Oh, and "that look in my eye"....


I agree that "that look" can be the best reward, my friend !
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Ah. pic wont upload.
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On 2007-08-07 21:26, Gede Nibo wrote:
First, one would have to DEFINE what IS "Bizarre."










K I D D I N G (screams bloody helll) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

leland, jonathan, chmara, bill, egergor, mystician, GET BACK IN THE DUNGEON!


ehem.

I perform in childrens hospitals and just bring my cups and balls. Oh, and "that look in my eye"....


Aw, Gede...you're the one who cracked the door open and disturbed the sepulchral stillness down here!

We've not rattled each others' cages in a while...hope things are well Smile
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