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ed rhodes
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In Hay's "Amateur Magician's Handbook" there's a silver and gold effect. At the end you have coins in your right hand and you are told to "sleeve the last coin."



I don't sleeve. I'm either wearing short-sleeve shirts or the sleeves are too tight.



Can anyone point me into a direction to vanish a single coin with your left hand while the right hand is busy holding other coins? Smile
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I'd keep it simple:



Display the coins in your right hand to the people on your right. As you turn to your left to display the coins to the folks on that side, simply ditch the left-hand coin in your pocket. You have plenty of cover and misdirection to accomplish this unnoticed.
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Sounds like good advice to me! Smile
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Hi Mandrake,



There are now gold coins on the market ready to be used with the Raven.



This could solve your problem.



The gold plated half dollars that we now have, really add class to your act.

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We opened the first and only close-up room for magic in Mexico with Wolf Ruvinskis.
have several new coin vanishes and routines to share shortly just as soon as I can find someone to film them for me.


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You could use a gold colored "Hoo" coin. This is a coin with a short pin protruding at an angle from its backside. Even though a coin so maltreated is experiencing some pain, you can still unobtrusively hook it to your trousers.



Another method is to carry a reasonably powerful magnet in your left rear pants pocket. Then all you need is a coin that is attracted by a magnet. One possibility is the gold colored Canadian dollar. If you choose to do this, it is best not to stand too close to any large steel objects.
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Hey thats pretty funny! Imagine trying to ditch the coin only to realize that there is a whole bunch of metal objects stuck to your backside!! Smile Smile Smile
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Hi. For complete vanishes you might want to learn topit techniques (see the great stuff by Mike Ammar), or matting techniques as seen in my L&L tapes (DVD).There are also many feints to display coins in your hand, while secretly hiding an extra one, and although unorthodox, an old technique exists from Fred Bauman to ditch the coin in the belt area of your pants (I think it was called "magician's dream"). - Michael Rubinstein
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RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!! ORDER YOURS TODAY!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used on the book.
ed rhodes
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Wow. I don't believe I didn't finish this! I'm sorry.

I came up with an idea.

A bag filled with coins. About a dozen quarters and other coins mixed in.

Pour the bag out. "Don't worry, I'm not going to use all of them. I just like having extras."

Do the routine. As you drop the coins, one at a time, from your left hand, have your right hand drape over the pile of coins.
Don't DO anything, just let the audience get into the idea that that's where your right hand is going to be.

When you get to the last transfer. Start counting the six coins from your left hand. At about coin four or five, gently drop the "extra" coin onto the pile.

I've done it several times so far. It seems to work. Everybody is focused on those six coins coming out of the left hand!
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"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
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Good thinking, Ed. This is a twist on what is called the "One of Many" principle.

With a pile of coins on the table or tray/plate a single coin can be added or stolen with observers unawares because of the 'herd" principle and similarity of objects.

One of my favorites is to slide a couple of coins away from the herd to give them individual identity. Then, in the process of picking them up with the fingers,
one is slid back into the herd. I am now "one behind" in the count. Remember the quip,"

"The easiest coin to vanish is one that never was?" I use the SwayOn sleight be able to show a coin(s) in each hand -
later having an empty hand that is "known" to hold a coin. A perfect vanish can follow in a variety of ways.

You can get "one ahead" with the slide-pick process also if desired, or switch in a gaff coin.

Your using a drop for a false count is clever, though the noise might be a problem.

The key is that you established a pattern earlier that allows for psychological ploys like Predictive Vision and Continuity Bias.

Thanks for revising this thread as with Social Distancing, many performers may be looking for alternatives to "in their hand" approach.

Picking a coin(s) from a pile of coins may not be as ideal has having a spectator select one and hand it to you, but is better than pulling coins from the pocket.
Will they accept that the coins in the pile are natural and unprepared? That is matter of presence and trust and framing that has nothing to do with sleights Smile

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Instead of a pile of coins on the table, you might want to consider David Roth's idea using the "bag", as seen on Penn and Teller Fool Us, and taught on the NYCMS DVD series.
First edition of Rubinstein Coin Magic sold out in RECORD TIME, and the supplies of the reprint are dwindling fast! but don't despair, they are still around at dealers everywhere!
RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!! ORDER YOURS TODAY!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used on the book.
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A magnetic holdout on the left or right rear pants pocket is much more powerful than you would imagine. You can also cover it with your arm/hand on that side, making it invisible, if angles are a worry for you. I Have been surprised by the miracles possible with this. Also that you can retrieve it very easily and nobody will suspect it.
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