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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
I've concluded that there are three types of spectators.
A. The uninterested...the key to winning this one is personality, presentation and participation. B. The Entertained....This one is enjoying your magic....don't blow it. C. The puzzle solver....To this one your magic is a game, a puzzle to figure out...The key to this one is flawless technique. It's my experience that these are about one third each. However how much time do we spend practising technique for type C and ignore the needs of 66% of our spectators?
Wes
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Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
I pretty much agree with your analysis on types of spectators. It sounds about right to me with my small amount of actual performing experience. To answer your question, I think you should just go out there and do the best you can do for "everyone" involved and you shouldn't try to cater to just a few. I believe when it comes to the "C" type individuals you might need to add spectator management skills to your repertoire, but if you are already doing the best you can do, there is nothing else to be done.....
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
In my younger days I used to focus on the one person who was a combination of Group A and Group C...I would feel bad if I didn't win them over..My other audience members suffered. So did I.
Thanks for the food for thought. Harris
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magicblademan Special user uk 523 Posts |
I never really thought of it like that till you just pointed it out,somethink else I have learned.
cheers.
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Chad Barnard Special user Mt. Airy, NC 763 Posts |
Good topic, Wes. I agree with Fingers. When it comes to "C", your audience management skills are put to the test.
The key for me is not to get lost, in my head, worrying what "C" is thinking. It is definitely something I need to work on. |
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Darby Loyal user Los Angeles 248 Posts |
Interesting thoughts. There's also talk about "creating magic" instead of just "doing tricks". Probably because I just listened to a lecture by Eugene Burger (taped at the Magic Castle) on this. I suspect you'll never satisfy spec C, even if performed flawlessly, because they're not really open to letting real magic happen. They'll just be disappointed (because they think they have solved the puzzle) or frustrated (because they didn't solve it). Spec B will likely enjoy the tricks, but you'll only likely get Spec A interested when you create magic (make it meaningful in some small way).
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
You can't please everyone but you can do your best to entertain the crowd and make them enjoy your presence.
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Gary Yin Elite user Sabah, Malaysia 449 Posts |
Spectator C) is the same like performing for magicians. Need flawless sleights to win them.
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
You left out the hecklers . . .
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
While these three categories are accurate, it's important to remember that for the most part, they are not set in stone. You are the performer, and it's what you do and how you do it that determines how many people end up in group B.
Sure there are hard cases, but for the most part, most spectators are both curious (i.e. problem solvers) and want to be entertained. If all you're offering them is the trick, they've got nothing else to do than try to figure out how it's done. That's not their fault. You chose to present a puzzle, so they assume you mean for them to try to figure it out. That's not to say that it's always bad to present a simple and pure mystery, however, be sure it's a good one. If your opening effect is deceptive, fun, and captures their imaginations, you'll move as many people as possible out of groups A and C. Now, all you've got to do is keep them entertained. I'm not saying you'll get everyone, but the ratios should certainly shift from even thirds. A lot of seasoned performers believe that the best way to move the crowd to group B is to assume that they're all A's and C's when you design the routine.
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Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
Nice post Mr. Kam, I concur.....
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
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On 2007-08-22 06:07, Curtis Kam wrote: I believe they normally begin in about even thirds.....However, it is an addicting feeling to see the spectators move to B......The members of group A end up with a broad smile or dropped jaws. I find that people in group C often either give up and enjoy the show or give up and get angry.
Wes
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**Roper** Regular user Houston 179 Posts |
Good words Mr. Cam!
I believe presentation is everything. |
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karbonkid Special user 951 Posts |
Wes,
I'm going with Cam on this one. I don't think they hit these categories until after they have seen you perform. And how you perform for them will decide how they react, i.e. uninterested, puzzle-solvers, etc. |
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Bill Nuvo Inner circle 3094 Posts or 2742 Posts |
What about D and E...Let's call them the Outsiders. The ones who can view magic as evil and the ones who truly believe that what you do is real. Both are extremes, but I have met both. They both need special care in management.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
I play to, and joke with the people who laugh, and clap the loudest. In every audience there is a leader, and I subtlely encourage everyone else to follow their leader.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Human nature exists independently of individual humans, or so I have been informed, I am not sure if I have been well informed or not.
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
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On 2007-08-22 12:00, karbonkid wrote: I agree with this opinion and believe most spectators are in group-B before you start your performance. If you believe this, you will try to improve your magic. But if you believe 1/3 dislike magic and 1/3 are hecklers, you won't be motivated to improve you. Hideo Kato |
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Kam made a good point. I believe that the clasification is the mind set of the specators. A good performer can change the mind sets . . . a bad performer as well.
Cards never lie
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
If find theres three types of spectators. Those that can count...and those that can't.
I ACTUALLY find theres two types of spectators. Those that like it. And those that don't. M:C |
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