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Nathan Hastings New user Minneapolis, MN 78 Posts |
Hello everyone.
I'm having a little problem with my thumb tips. My vinyl one is a little too big and is too dark for my skin tone. My vernet one is also just a tiny bit too big, and the skin tone is almost right. I want to know, how do you go about shaping your thumb tips, to fit your thumb? I have very thin thumbs and fingers. And how do you go about concealing the fact that one of your thumbs is darker than the rest of your skin? I would appreciate any help. Thank you.
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jmoran76 New user West Palm Beach, FL 69 Posts |
I think if you do some searching online, you will find a few different color TTs that may make you more comfortable. I remember when I first learned how to use it...it was at a shop not too far from Detroit called Crown Magic. Anyway, the owner, Harvey, used a bright red TT. I never saw it. He made sure that his TT was pointed at the audience, and he covered the front with his middle finger.
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tbaer Inner circle Pennsylvania 2004 Posts |
I would not worry too much about the color of the TT not being the exact color of your skin tone. You can see the difference because you know what's going on. The spectators don't. As was already mentioned, the tip of the TT should be pointing toward the audience.
But if the TT is too big, I would buy a smaller size. If it was too tight, people have placed the TT in boiling water and then fitting it on your thumb to stretch it alittle. You could try painting the inside of the TT with white paint, this may lighten the outside color slightly. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Nathan, don't be so self-conscious that you are wearing a TT. The audience don't know about it. Follow the advice above and try wearing youR TT everyday around the house until you are not even aware you are wearing one - then you would not be so conscious about it.
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yin_howe Special user Malaysia 985 Posts |
I was told that the TT is never actually seen by the audience. In theory, the TT could be green with yellow polka dots and would still work. But of course having one closer to your skin color is preferred. Note that the color of the palms of your hands could be also of a different color than the backs. When you show your hands 'empty', you are actually showing your palms.
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
The guys got it right - the TT is pretty much kept out of sight. It is more a psychologial thing to have the color matching
Cards never lie
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
People see what they are looking for. If you use a green TT to vanish a red silk you have created a situation where people are looking for a red silk. They will not see the TT.
If you don't believe that watch the following video and TRY to count how many times the white team passes the ball. Then watch it again and recount. Then just watch the video a third time, but don't count. http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/grafs/demos/15.html
Wes
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Tom Fenton Inner circle Leeds, UK (but I'm Scottish) 1477 Posts |
You can sometimes shape a TT by putting it in hot water then, carefully, putting it on your thumb and shaping it to fit.
Be careful not to scald yourself!!!
"But there isn't a door"
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
I would like to add to that - do not put it on your thumb as you can burn yourself. Better use a round object to enlarge the soft tt. Use the search function and you will find more advice on this subject
Cards never lie
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
As for sizes.
There are other fingertips besides the TT that may fit better. |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
O yes, the finger tips can be pretty useful too. They can also work as a replacement for smaller thumbs and they work great too.
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fallingblood New user North Dakota 98 Posts |
For getting it to fit, I'd say don't resize it at all. Take a bandage, and just stick it to the inside of the opening of the Thumb Tip. It should help some what.
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
Size, color, shape or anything else should not make a difference. In fact you should wrap aluminum foil around it. Then practice THAT WAY. The problem with the TT is it is overexposed by bad magicians who think that it is such a simple trick. Therefore they get all wild and crazy doing all these unnecessary hand moves, when I reality and the proper way is to just vanish the object and do a simple minimal movement with the hands, keeping the TT out of direct view, of course.
If you worry about those things you claim, then my advice to you is that you ARE NOT READY to perform the effect. Because, if you don't believe, then there is no way in H. E. double hockey sticks, that your audience will. |
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kendavis Regular user 182 Posts |
I agree with all the above. When I started out using a thumb tip, I too was worried about the color. I visited a model hobby shop. They had hundreds of tiny bottles of latex paint. I matched one color to my skin. The owner was kind enough to air brush it onto my thumb tip. Although I don't think that this was necessary it did come in handy. Once I couldn't remove the thumb tip, so I just continued with my other routines and no one could tell the difference. I didn't have to worry about angles, etc.
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jquackc Loyal user JC - Denver 218 Posts |
If you paint your thumbs blue.... you can use a blue thumb tip and not have to worry about it not matching. Do a couple of effects with out the tip to get people used to you having blue thumbs. then when you have a tip on... nobody will know the difference. Just be prepared to be questioned on why you have blue thumbs.. if asked this... don't tell them it's because you are trying to hide a thumbtip... just tell them it's because your mom's a smurf, and you just happened get your dad's nose, and your mom's thumbs. Unless you tell them your Dad's a elephant, then you'll need to go buy an elephant nose. In fact you'll be the only magician with a blue thumbs and an elephant nose... pretty *** original.
Or you can just go buy a smaller thumb tip.
JC
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Jay Austin Regular user 184 Posts |
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On 2007-08-26 09:55, Wes65 wrote: That is just great. Proves the point perfectly. |
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fallingblood New user North Dakota 98 Posts |
It's true that the color of the thumb tip shouldn't make a difference, but psychologically, it does. For the beginner, it would be foolish to perform with a blue TT. For a beginner, it helps using a similiar colored TT. Now the tone doesn't have to be exact, but something they will be comfortable in performing with. Then once they get that confidence, which is a must, then it's a different thing. But to start out with, it's best to have a similiar colored TT to build confidence.
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
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On 2007-08-28 19:24, Jay Austin wrote: I agree with this point too. . |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
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On 2007-08-28 21:23, fallingblood wrote: WRONG! That will only make a BAD performer. A student needs to learn the proper technique. End of story. Otherwise the student will learn BAD HABITS and be filled with false hope. A thumb tip was NOT INTENDED TO WAVE IN FRONT OF A SPECTATORS FACE. It should be discreetly out of view and therefore hidden from direct sight. That is why practice (sometimes years) before performing in front of others is crucial. You can't expect to buy a TT and put it on and all of a sudden know what the heck you are doing. Never gonna happen. Paint it the brightest color you can find - International Orange, and practice like that. First in front of a mirror, then a video camera, then family, then finally, in front of others. I can't stand when I hear someone say "It don't match my skin" All I hear is that the person has NO IDEA what it means to be a magician. And I feel like this is a child holding a loaded 45 Magnum. A TT is one of the MOST POWERFUL tools a magician can have. Yet less than 1% of the owners of one know that! All I can say, is learn how to use it the RIGHT way or don't use it at all... |
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fallingblood New user North Dakota 98 Posts |
Quote: I agree with the majority of what you said. However, you can't deny that confidence is a must for any performer. And it may be a trivial thing, but the color of the TT will have a psychological effect. It will either make the performer more confident, or it will make him less confident.
On 2007-08-29 11:10, Justin Style wrote: As for the TT never being seen, that's not completely true. Yes, on somethings it will never be seen, but quick flashes of it is not anything bad. Pretty much every professional that I've seen who uses a TT does flash it quickly. And there is nothing wrong with that. Quick flashes will just reinforce that your hands are completely empty. |
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