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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
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On 2007-11-07 02:57, MagicSanta wrote: good point. Proofs again how stupid man can be
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
When it comes to dancing with woman I have a trick for that but you all won't be able to use it.
I make the dance a little more interesting when I tell her that because I'm deaf they'll need to feed me the rhythm. This is actually the truth. If they can move to the music I can pick up on the rhythm from her. Once I got it I surprise her with some more advanced moves like twirl her around. She usually gives me a "Where did that come from" look. Ron Jaxon |
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toomuchmagic Special user 534 Posts |
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On 2007-11-06 07:05, Art-Fantasy wrote: hahahahahahahaha try being yourself instead of coming up with moves and strategies or wasting your money on a book like that. and on that note I can honestly say that I have never used a magic trick in attempt to pick up a girl. anyone else? |
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ghostpianist Loyal user 274 Posts |
Thanks for the review but I will pass this one (as if anyone cares..)
Women are troublesome; and I like to stay out of trouble. |
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Art-Fantasy Regular user Australia 169 Posts |
Two biggest mistakes in dating world:
1. To be yourself 2. be confident One must become the best self and success breeds confidence. therefore, focus on success and the confidence will come by itself. if someone who is jsut timid, do you think he deserves the chance to become better? of course. therefore, "being yourself" is not enough. Mystery Method tells you to be your best self and bring all the concepts together to understand how women think and what makes one become successful seducer, to meet the love of your life, to have lots of sex, etc. I rather buy mystery method than buying crap magic DVDs anyway. and toomuchmagic, you never use magic tricks to pick up girl, good for you. I'm so sure you meet lots of women without having to learn it, perhaps you belonged to the jock clique when you were in high school? or you just go up to women saying, "can I buy you a drink?". It it works, good for you, mate. |
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toomuchmagic Special user 534 Posts |
Women are not mystical mysterious beings that must be unlocked. They are people. Try that one instead. Treat women like people... instead of a goal. This is pure common sense here.
Yup I was a jock. I played football and wrestling. I also was in the chorus and band and I starred in the school plays. Funny thing was the confusion when the jocks found out I sang and danced etc, and when the "band kids" found out I was a jock. But I did my thing and was accepting of both 'groups' and therefore I had many more friends, many more opportunities, and lived much more content than the average person who was trying to fit in by being something they aren't...maybe something they learned out of a book. |
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Art-Fantasy Regular user Australia 169 Posts |
Hahahaha......toomuchmagic got owned by the Ghostpianist. Anyway, mate.....It's fine that you don't like the book or think it is ridiculious to learn to "socialize" from the book. It takes guts and balls to get out of the norms and to improve chances with women, anyway. By the way, toomuchmagic, about your comment "you either are and you either aren't" is entirely NOT TRUE. I have met an ex-geek who were into RPG game, overweight, and did not have any social skills wahtsoever, he also was an asian. He is right now one of the coaches in australia, appearing on Televsion show and not to mention, have fulfilling life with not one but 5 caucassian (Irish, Aussie, Russian, Swedish, etc) at the same time.
the attributes of seducer can be learned. you also learned it too, from your story that you were jock and stuff, just say you were lucky enough to learn it early in your life, maybe from parents who did not verbally abused you, friends, and stuff. There are people who did not have parents and did not get the advantages to learn anything about improving their chances with women or even getting respects from others. Just look at Mystery, he was a loser before. Now, he is great venusian artist. Just look for his videos of him picking up women from youtube, you get the ideas. However, this thread is about the book and how this book helps for magic performance. I say that this book may be good for magic performances especially in the section of "neg" and "Amogging". I can recall where I was doing a walkaround gig at graduation ball (as you expect there are a lot of drunk students, not to mention attractive girls), I was approaching this table and I laid down my deck of cards on the table while I was introducing myself, oen girl just took my deck of cards to look at it. looking at her, I took it back and said "Hands off the merchandise" which is a neg. (Before, I would just let her do it and I'd probably say, "Go on and look, it's normal deck of cards"). The problem about the past approach is that I did not demonstrate control and assertiveness. From the same gig, I did magic at this particular table and there was one guy who claimed "He knew a bit about magic". As I was doing my thing, people were amazed and just freaking out and he just maintained his cool and said "I know what you were doing". I knew that he is classic bluff who wants to look good there I AMOG (Alpha Male Other Guy) him by saying, "so, do you wanna do the same trick that I did for them?". He defended himself and said, "no, no, no" and other people were just laughign at him, caught his bluff. From then on, he was more receptive to my tricks and genuinely fooled because I put him back into his place. This book will teach you how to become a Venusian Artist and it is quite relevant to magic performance. Because both of them are usually set in social dynamics situation. Reccomended. |
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ghostpianist Loyal user 274 Posts |
Those books are a compilation of experiences of human interactions; I've read some of these and found them interesting in a psychological sense. Could save people a lot of trouble too for going through the same thing.
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Always good to improve chances with women.
Cards never lie
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
Here's the thing though. "improving chances with woman" is a very, very small part of it. Without using the terms they use here's basically what it teaches.
First of all never "hit on" a girl. In fact that's a sure fire way to loose any chance you might have. If she thinks she's being hit on then you're just the average guy that attractive girls are use to. Who wants average? All you want to do is meet her. Also make absolutely no comment about her looks until you get to know her. If you make any reference to her looks then you're almost admitting that you are attracted to her looks. Don't do that yet. Not until you get to really talking and find out if she's attracted to you at all (You can comment on style though such as nice shirt). This may seem wrong but if you comment on her looks then you seem like you're "hitting on her" because of her looks. She's use to that. What about her mind or interests? This usually means you have to meet the group she is with. You must do this in such a way that they don't feel threatened by you. In fact you need to make them feel that they enjoy the fact that you've joined them. Once you're a part of their group you then focus on the girl you are interested in. This usually means you need to find a way to talk to her (not the group, just her). Quite often this means to get her away from her group. Not another building or too far from her friends. Just somewhere that you and her can talk one on one. In order to do this she and her friends must not worry about it. In other words, they must like you. Next is where you meet her and she meets you and see if anything if there's any chemistry. You're the only one interested up in until then but you don't really know her and she doesn't really know you. This is the time you spend getting to know each other and finding out if you're initial impressions of her are correct. This is also where she can find out is she's interested in you. From there it goes where ever it goes. All this doesn't seem so bad does it? In fact it's all common sense. Now reread that and take the girl out of the equation. You approach a group in such a way that they aren't threatened by you. You've gotten them to like you. You've become a part of their group. That is something every entertainer should be able to do. I'm not saying that everyone should go out and get this book. But if you're having trouble approaching a group of strangers or thinking of of what to do next (Other then another trick) this book might be something you could look into for ideas and techniques. Ron Jaxon |
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ferryascanio Loyal user Jakarta - Indonesia 264 Posts |
From where I can get the book?
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masterkiller New user 75 Posts |
You can buy it from amazon.
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ferryascanio Loyal user Jakarta - Indonesia 264 Posts |
Master Killer thank's for the information ...
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Natanel Special user 739 Posts |
I thought that the fashion section of a magic message board would be the nadir of magician's ability, but that's before I found this thread.
People who work for Theory 11: Do you want a young guy without a stupid gelled haircut or eurotrash jeans for your videos? PM me.
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masterkiller New user 75 Posts |
It's the reason I got interested in magic in the first place...
everyone that says otherwise is just bluffing...lol. |
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
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On 2007-11-16 00:53, ferryascanio wrote: You can get it here. When you go to the page you'll see that it mostly talks about is "Meeting women" and dating. but keep in mind all that others have said in here. It's really about being confident and social. The book is actually very interesting. For those who think it's just a bunch of bull to trick people into doing things. It's not like that at all. It's actually very scientific. Just to show you what I mean. Here's a few paragraphs from the book. Quote:
The ability to thrive in a social group is extremely important for animals who live in groups, such as humans. When Aristotle wrote that “man is a political animal” he wasn’t writing about elections or public policy; he was referring to the polis: ancient Greek for city. Humans are designed to live and to thrive in groups. In fact, one of the strongest punishments in Aristotle’s Athens (and other traditional societies) was ostracism – exile from the tribe. Ron Jaxon |
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Cherchez la Femme . . .
Cards never lie
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masterkiller New user 75 Posts |
It's really about understanding social dynamics and how to make them work to your advantage.
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