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Sean Macfarlane
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I have one and it's awesome! I would hate to see this as an Iphone app, everyone would have it then!
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I want to clarify that I still offer the Poker Machine at a very special price, however it is now more than 7 months after my last post and my supply of DVD Sets is completely exhausted, so I now longer include them with the machine. I had a couple recent requests, so wanted to clarify that.
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I saw this at hocus-Pocus when it was released. I have to admit to being surprised at the glowing testimonials this has received, as I dismissed the effect without much thought originally.
I've not seen a performance. My thoughts are these: the machine appears to make a calculation based on the four visible cards, to determine the value of the hole card. If this is what is ACTUALLY happening, then surely a calculator is a bit of an obvious tool, no? Do most spectators not just assume that there is a mathematical principle underlying the effect?
Do the conditions under which the cards are selected disprove any mathematical method? Clearly, removing 5 cards en bloc from a deck would immediately indicate a posible method.
From reading the description, this sounds more like a puzzle than a trick. I'm sure I'm wrong, after reading this thread - but I can't help thinking if I saw this, I'd immediately deconstruct it, if it's based on a mathematical principle. Maybe I wouldn't know the exact algorithm, but from the handling at the start I would deduce the probable method.
Perhaps I'm wrong? I know one or two mathematical principles are extremely counter-intuitive, maybe this is one of them? I'm really not fishing for a method at all, but merely wondering how the presentation goes - right from the start. Or, does that give too much away, as I suspect?
Thanks, Doug
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The five cards are freely selected from the deck by the spec........four are removed leaving the hole card on the table.
Magi has no idea what the cards are in advance.

.................Poker Machine predicts the hole card.

Think about that for a second............

Seeking the precise presentation seems to be searching for a method........but based on your post, you've not deduced the method, nor are you close to understanding exactly what's going on during the effect.

Conceptually, it might not be the effect for you............as the primary prop is a calculator, and a calculation is obviously being made in order to accomplish the effect.
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Thanks, Silverking, that's basically what I wanted to know. I understand, it's hard to distinguish "searching for a method" from "questioning the effectiveness of the method". Your final comment is exactly the problem I'd have, I think. Also, I'm not too keen on having a big prop for close-up - though, I'd consider it.
I do find things like this infuriating, though, as I'd love to see it presented after reading so many glowing comments! Is there a You Tube clip anywhere?
Potty Smile
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Here's my Poker Machine (currently up for sale) showing the 4 of Spades in a full picture:

Click here to view attached image.
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Although this isn't the procedure, for the spec the effect is akin to having somebody think of a card, and then having that card graphically display on the Poker Machine.

The reason calculations never enter into the thought process of the spec is because the handling makes it a prediction as opposed to a calculation.

Again, in effect the Poker Machine knows the unknowable..........the unseen hole card.
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John really does provide customer service that goes above and beyond the usual!!!!!!!!!

I have used the Poker Machine for many years and can´t tell you how much fun I had demonstrating it. I´m a collector for over 35 years and this really is a top piece that not only fools laymen but magicians just as well (if not even more, lol).

Unfortunately I made a very stupid mistake but John helped me out, and the same day I was demonstrating it again like nothing happened. He responded so fast, and was so helpful and kind with all his tips… THIS IS COSTUMER SERVICE AT IT´S BEST!

The Miracle Poker Machine is a real miracle, I highly recommend it to anyone that wants some real magic… Get one if you can.


WARNING!

If you are into magic and know about advertizing, you will not trust the advertisement of the Miracle Poke Machine. I didn´t, but how unbelievable the ad reads… I guarantee the ad is 100% true!!!

Best,
Doc
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I just wonder how you guys sell this as you the magician/ mentalist doing the magic?

Or are you happy to let the little machine get all the credit (not that there's anything wrong with that if presented correctly)?
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On 2012-03-21 10:18, David Klass wrote:
I just wonder how you guys sell this as you the magician/ mentalist doing the magic?

Or are you happy to let the little machine get all the credit (not that there's anything wrong with that if presented correctly)?


David,

First of all magic is all about you and how you presents it…
A demonstration like this will have one of the following things happen in the mind of the spectator:

A. They believe this is a machine that gamblers will kill for and is the Casino´s biggest fear. Something very very special they have just witnessed with their own eyes, and something they will talk about for a very long time…

Or

B. They know it can´t be thru, so one way or another the magician, mentalist or mystery performer controlled everything that was done or knew it all ahaed or something like that, and they will also be scrambling there heads from amazement…

Most of the time it will be both.

Either way is fine, they have just seen a miracle!!! I don´t mind as long as they have been entertained.

If you are only into magic to show off your skills, this may not be for you, but if you like to amaze and entertain people... the Miracle Poker Machine is a winner.

Cheers!
Doc
David Klass
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Thanks for the advice Doc Smile

You might want to re read my post where I did mention about presentation.
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David,

No I did get it the first time, I only wanted to answer your question. English is not my first language. if it sounded harsh in any way, this was not my intention:)

Best wishes,
Doc
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I'm selling mine if anyone's interested. Check the 'tricks for sale' section.

Todd
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This is my first attempt of making PC Poker Machine:

phase one: Hole card is "caught" with permormer's 4 cards (8 cards total)
phase two: Only 4 cards are entered, spec enters the cards into the machine, the order of cards does not matter, no Stacked Deck
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loeld
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Hi!

I used to own this poker machine, but when the batteries did not work anymore then all data was gone and I did not send it back to John Mendoza for updating the software. Yesterday I received
Bloom Miracle Poker Machine by Gaetan Bloom and Chris Wasshuber. It is just great and all the problems with the Al Stanger poker machine is gone. It is also much easier to perform. I love my new toy

You can find it here: https://www.lybrary.com/bloom-miracle-po......155.html
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