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SoCalPro
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"Where'd you put the folded card?"


I get this at times as well. I just smile and think to myself, "this person probably takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes." Smile
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On 2007-09-13 02:39, SoCalPro wrote:
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"Where'd you put the folded card?"


I get this at times as well. I just smile and think to myself, "this person probably takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes." Smile



What is it supposed to mean? I don't understand. You have people say this as well? Do they say this when you fold the card, when you reveal the card? Please explain.
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Best to take it with a grain of salt...maybe add a little humor poking at yourself, You can point out that luck for her this wasn't brain surgry...Even the best mess up...nobody's perfect...don't let it get you down or bother you. Pick up, dust off and move on...
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On 2007-09-13 03:11, kammagic wrote:
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On 2007-09-13 02:39, SoCalPro wrote:
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"Where'd you put the folded card?"


I get this at times as well. I just smile and think to myself, "this person probably takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes." Smile



What is it supposed to mean? I don't understand. You have people say this as well? Do they say this when you fold the card, when you reveal the card? Please explain.



"What's that supposed to mean?" I do "Clipped" and I do the fold very well...right in front of them and lightning fast. I've been doing it for the past 4 years and have only been caught a few times. When a person says something like that, I think that maybe they can't comprehend the awesome thing that just happened, they just don't get it. I do this trick for 5 and 6 year old and get a great reaction so when an older person reacts that way....well........ Smile

They usually ask this right after I reveal that their signed card has been in front of them the whole time.

Did I clarify?
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On 2007-09-13 10:40, SoCalPro wrote:
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On 2007-09-13 03:11, kammagic wrote:
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On 2007-09-13 02:39, SoCalPro wrote:
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"Where'd you put the folded card?"


I get this at times as well. I just smile and think to myself, "this person probably takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes." Smile



What is it supposed to mean? I don't understand. You have people say this as well? Do they say this when you fold the card, when you reveal the card? Please explain.



"What's that supposed to mean?" I do "Clipped" and I do the fold very well...right in front of them and lightning fast. I've been doing it for the past 4 years and have only been caught a few times. When a person says something like that, I think that maybe they can't comprehend the awesome thing that just happened, they just don't get it. I do this trick for 5 and 6 year old and get a great reaction so when an older person reacts that way....well........ Smile

They usually ask this right after I reveal that their signed card has been in front of them the whole time.

Did I clarify?




So they are catching something on the switch and not the fold right? Is this "paperclipped" where the folded card is in view the whole time then it is switched. So when they say "Where'd you put the folded card?" are they refering to the card you switched out or are they wanting to know how you hid their card the whole time.
What I am getting at is the phrase is not very specific so I don't think they are catching anything.

I am not a big fan of showing a folded card ahead of time and then having to switch that card out. I do many folded card reveals but the audience is not aware of a folded card or looking for you to fold a card until the final reveal. This I think makes a big difference in the audience seeing anything. If you have an isolated folded card that is visible the audience knows that that is going to be their card. So they are now watching for the switch and for you to fold their selected card. This is not a good situation. Sure it can be pulled off but why put the added heat on yourself. Plus you are loosing some of the surprise of the reveal. If they see the folded card ahead of time they are expecting that to be their card. Spectators are also surprised that you would destroy one of your cards by folding it up. If you show a folded up card to begin with you show them you do not have a problem destroying cards thus eliminating another part of the surprise of finding their card folded up somewhere.

Just somethings to think about if you want to eliminate spectators from busting you.
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Yes, it's "paperclipped".

So what you are saying is to pull the clip out of my pocket just before reveling it to be their card? Interesting, I'll have to try it that way and see the reactions. Thanks for the tip (there's that word again Smile).
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On 2007-09-13 16:33, SoCalPro wrote:
Yes, it's "paperclipped".

So what you are saying is to pull the clip out of my pocket just before reveling it to be their card? Interesting, I'll have to try it that way and see the reactions. Thanks for the tip (there's that word again Smile).


I was thinking more along the lines of card under watch or card to box where the folded card is a secret until the final reveal. Paperclipped is fine but if you are having problems with people seeing things it could very well be the effect itself that is making them look for those things.

I think a simple adjustment would be to try paperclipped with the card folded and clipped hiding inside the card box until the reveal. This way it is on the table the whole time but they are unaware. Plus they won't be expecting it to show up there and they won't be looking for you to fold the card.
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Cough:TOIBOX:cough

Problem solved Smile
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Getting caught is part of the porcess. Go over it later and think how it happened and can it be avoided next time. We're all stil learning. Me after 40 years!
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On 2007-09-13 18:42, Bobby Forbes wrote:
Cough:TOIBOX:cough

Problem solved Smile


What is a TOIBOX?
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On 2007-09-14 02:01, SoCalPro wrote:
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On 2007-09-13 18:42, Bobby Forbes wrote:
Cough:TOIBOX:cough

Problem solved Smile


What is a TOIBOX?


http://web.mac.com/jonathankamm/iWeb/ToiBox/Welcome.html
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On 2007-09-10 10:33, paymerich wrote:
I was at the restaurant last night performing at a table and I was wowing them real good especially the mom at the table . I was finishing up doing my version of Nate Kranzo's Voodoo Card. Quick summarry of the effect is : Spec picks and signs a card , card is "lost" , The spec sign a business card as the deck is placed in the card box . the business card is folded , the card box is opened, and Voila' the spec signed card is folded in the middle of the deck.) Right as I do the Mecury fold , my hand bumped the table ( those high bar tables) and the mom focus right on my hands right in the middle of the fold. I continue on with the trick but as I do the final reveal she mouthes to me: "I saw the card" and I gave her a conspiritorial wink. I was performing the effect for the father who pulled the cards out of the card box who was agahst. About 5 seconds later, she semi-quietly says to the husband "I will tell you later". Ugh I hate getting busted especially when you have been wowing them.
BTW not looking for advice for I know what I did wrong, just venting. Anyone else have a simialr experience.


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Some people see a "flash" and think they have the whole trick figured out...I don't think you are ever safe from the heckler, or know it all.....
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On 2007-09-15 18:02, Bobby Forbes wrote:
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On 2007-09-14 02:01, SoCalPro wrote:
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On 2007-09-13 18:42, Bobby Forbes wrote:
Cough:TOIBOX:cough

Problem solved Smile



What is a TOIBOX?


http://web.mac.com/jonathankamm/iWeb/ToiBox/Welcome.html


why wont the "order worldwide" link work??
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On 2007-09-16 09:23, matt.magicman wrote:
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On 2007-09-15 18:02, Bobby Forbes wrote:
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On 2007-09-14 02:01, SoCalPro wrote:
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On 2007-09-13 18:42, Bobby Forbes wrote:
Cough:TOIBOX:cough

Problem solved Smile



What is a TOIBOX?


http://web.mac.com/jonathankamm/iWeb/ToiBox/Welcome.html


why wont the "order worldwide" link work??




None of the links work. The book has been sold out for quite a while. Everything is on hold until the DVD is released hopefully by the end of the year.

, Jonathan
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I agree with the many people that have posted. Getting busted = incentive for more practice

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I know this is off the subject and I have talked with Kam via PM about this but what are the differences between TOIBOX and Kennedy's mystery box? Aside from TOIBOX being more "pocket friendly"

I currently perform Paperclipped and Johny Ace Palmer's Card in shoe(which in my opinion is the most powerfull folded card to impossible location but not for restaurants, just strolling cocktail etc.) and I have NEVER been caught on the fold. Not saying this to tute my own horn but I have structured the routines in such a way that the moments leading up to the fold are "relaxed". What I mean is that something amazing has happened prior to the fold so everyone thinks I am done. You should be smooth enough at the fold to do it quickly under fire(I think you need to go through at least 10 - 15 decks folding each card to get somewhat comfortable with the action, then touch up on it every now and then if you are not performing regularly) but it really should be done when they aren't looking....
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You really should all be ashamed of your self. I talked to Ice Mcdonald this past friday night. I talked to him about this post. WOW really it is hard to put into words what he said. but when you get busted you are doing what he calls Magical Treason.You are giving away what we do. Instead of saying well it is ok everyone does it. You should practice more. You are a magician act like. Merlin did not get busted doing magic so why should we. I am sorry to say it this hard but when I heared him say that I loved it. I bust my butt so I do not get caught and everyone is saying it is ok. Tell me what the difference is between you getting busted on a effect and the masked magician. NOTHING. Sorry but those are my thoughts.
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On 2007-09-22 14:48, Hart Keene wrote:
I know this is off the subject and I have talked with Kam via PM about this but what are the differences between TOIBOX and Kennedy's mystery box? Aside from TOIBOX being more "pocket friendly"

Toibox is just an ordinary mint tin you buy at the store but I teach you how to use it in extraordinary ways.

The Kennedy Box is a great prop but it does have it's draw backs.
1. Too big
2. Looks like a magic prop
3. It's gimmicked
4. It can be looked at but not thoroughly examined
5. Specatator can not remove the card from the box
6. When the lid is removed you now have 2 props to deal with.
7. It costs $80!
8. It can't be used impromptu with any deck of cards.
9. Not the best for stand up surrounded work. Having a table works best.
10. Can't be done without a mercury or secret card fold.

Toibox solves these issues.
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