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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson)
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I never said I did have it. I said I do not SEE how it could be done with the old gimmick. If it was using the same gimmick, wouldn't it be a lot more expensive the the original Abyss?
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On 2007-09-21 13:08, THEGUY26 wrote:
It did in the demo. It also showed a signed quarter in a factory sealed bottle.


It says "sealed" not factory sealed.

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On 2007-09-21 10:53, Y2John wrote:
it's pretty cheap to


Cheap isn't always a good sign.
I am wondering if you get the 'same gimmick' just with a different write up.
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So can the bottle be given away?

I'll wait for more reviews before buying this.
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It also says 100% completely sealed and unopened.

Yes, the bottle can be given away, which has been said multiple times.
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On 2007-09-21 16:14, Andy Ace wrote:
However the coin and bottle are not shown clearly as seperate objects before the penetration.


Yeah, plus he is wearing ALL BLACK with a black background. Unfortunately you can't wear black all the time and it be night time.

For the price they offer...I am guessing its just the same gimmick along with a new write up...Not something to go run out and buy, especially if you have the old version. Doesn't seem practical enough for me. The set up and clean up was never worth it for me with Abyss. Not crazy about it. Practicality is everything to a worker...
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Hmm I don't think that they used black art for this effect.

I highly doubt they are using the old gimmick if the bottle is sealed and can be given away.

There are a few ways to achieve the effects in the demo video. The method is clever, if it is what I think it is. Smile

Like what I said this is really the year of CTB effects. One more nice CTB to the list.
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The signed coin was a quarter, I'm pretty sure of it. That means it is too big to fit in the bottle. No one said anything about black art, either.
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It looks like the old method...PLUS some new ones added which mean additional time for the set up.
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It's possible it still uses the same method (with the whole liquid kick) along with some extra things.

It would be nice to see some full performances without all the blackness.
Somehow I think they are trying to disguise the dirtyness of it all and make it seem cleaner than it really is.
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This looks nothing like the first one.
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"The next kicker is that the coin is genuinely trapped inside the bottle and impossible to get out. The coin is far too large to get in or out of the bottle and remains fixed permanently in this impossible condition."

I didn't see anything on there that said "small coin".

I was told all those things about Impervious by someone who knew a lot about the trick, so it's not really my fault, and I am sorry for saying those things.

There actually is a way to do those things with Impervious.
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It says nothing about a small coin.
At the end of the demo, there was a signed quarter in a factory sealed bottle. Quarters are too big to get out of a bottle like that.
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You mean 'sealed' bottle...they never said it was factory sealed.

They never show the actual penetration for the sealed version.

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On 2007-09-21 09:58, patrick66 wrote:
I say it's impossible, I am not going to buy this until someone discovers that the ad is not honest.


I think I'll pass too.
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Well, they don't prove it's factory sealed, and it's only a demo. In my mind, sealed and factory sealed mean the same thing. I do think it is performed with a factory sealed bottle. I could maby ask The Enchantment and find out.
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On 2007-09-21 18:02, THEGUY26 wrote:
Well, they don't prove it's factory sealed,


That's because it probaly isn't.

I'm sure the price would be a lot higher if it was a real factory sealed bottle.
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Well, they said that the bottle is completely 100% sealed. Why would they need to say the cap in 100% completely screwed on?
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Sealed, re sealed..same to me.


In any case, it doesn't seem like you can do it 100% impromptu.
If the clean up is anything at all like the old abyss, then I don't see the major revolutionary aspect here.
Full bottle and sealed bottles have been done before. Where have they been?
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This is not impromptu at all. I'm not sure about the clean up, though.
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Alright, I'm getting ready to place my order for this right now.
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Looking forward for your revw, the guy. I got the old abyss and just would like to know how much improvement they made.
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