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Peo Olsson
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Anyone got an idea when Bob Kohler's U3F2 is coming out?
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My guess is when the U3F2 Banner Ad linke starts working. I don't know if it's just me but everytime I try to click the link on the Ad banner it goes nowhere.
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It's not just you.

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Before I asked to have the post I started on the U3F2 removed (due to a spiral effect of fighting), we read that a lot of it has to do with Bob getting International Protection of a new gimmick.

In other words, "It will be ready when it is ready." And I really wish I knew when that was!!!

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I have a feeling Bob may be waiting to clear up some of the unpleasantness that surrounds MM's Illusion Coins. If Jamie is making the new gaffs, I have an inkling I may know what the improvement is. I just hope I don't have to sell a kidney to afford it.
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I think that Thomas Wayne is making the coins... but last I heard it was that Bob was waiting for some international patents to go through to protect a new gimmick.

That was before the thread got hijacked, and then rightfullyso got deleted.

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Bob Kohler is doing a good job managing his business and will let the market know when his next product is ready to be sold.
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RevJohn, if you remember it was hi-jacked by the same Thomas Wayne.

I guess you could lump me in as a culprit as well, since I kept responding.
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Rev, what specifically leads you to think that Thomas is making the coins?

What criteria do you use to decide if something is rightful?

Real questions.
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Jonathan,

Come to think of it, the fact that I am thinking Thomas is making the coins is based on assumptions. My thought was since it was Thomas that made the Vegas Coins for Bob, and that Thomas really chimed in during the last U3F2 thread.

And because Thomas seemed to have inside knowledge of the U3F2 process.

But assumptions on my part, I am seeing now. Cause I really can't answer that.

The Criteria for rightfully so on the mentioned thread was we had two adults flaming each other so much that it was not only rude but offensive. And it takes a lot to offend me (Liberal Lutheran that I am Smile ). But it got to the point it was ridiculous.

You are right, podcastrant, it was partly Hi-Jacked by Thomas, and then Lassen, using an assumed identity, fired back, and it just kept going from there. Got worse and worse. When you move from Magic to attacking someone's sexual preferences or their family... it is beyond.

And of course, I was reading it like it was a tabloid. So I am not innocent on the matter either, I am sure.

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My guess is "before Christmas". Let's see how things go and wait on BobK.
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It was suposed to premeir at Magic Live. Did it?
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All I know I e-mailed bob about something else and he said basically no comment on U3F2

thanks

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I saw a set of the "Illusion Coins" tonight at a magic club meeting. This has to be a new low for MM. They are having artificial Morgan dollars made for this thing. They are skirting the law by having the word "COPY" on the tail side of the coins. So far, so good.

Here's the rub. One of the coins does not say "COPY" on it. Maybe, just maybe, someone will tell someone who just might decide that enough is enough.
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Illusion coins what is the effect? Is it a U3F Knock off?


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Yes. That's basically what they are.
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It's weird to see Wesley James take a different tack.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=5250402

I think he's affiliated with MM in some way, but he seems to have a good reputation in the magic community. What do you guys think of this?
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I don't think Wesley is offering any praise to the product.

Some folks just don't care whether they are buying goods which are cheap, fake or stolen or two of the three or all three.

So fake/copy coins travel from right to left?
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Hard to say, kind of cryptic. however he has recently released a dvd on card magic with them if that says anything.
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On 2007-10-23 12:32, podcastrant wrote:
It's weird to see Wesley James take a different tack.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=5250402

I think he's affiliated with MM in some way, but he seems to have a good reputation in the magic community. What do you guys think of this?


Wes is wrong.

Wesley James posted
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Gents,
Notwithstanding the fact that gaffing coins is illegal--though apparently not unethical because our purposes is just--the gaff being defended by those who haven't done their homework was originally marketed by Steve Duschek, long before Kohler, as "Slippery Sam," and the basic concept appears in "The Art of Magic."

The feke coins being offered by Magic Makers are almost certainly the non-silver replica coins that are fairly ubiquitous in some parts of Asia. These too are illegal, but no more illegal than gaffing real coins. I won't get into the controversy about the "flipper" that was either the invention of Phil Postma--based on an idea in Greater Magic--(manufactured by Eddie Tytlebaum) or Bob Swadling, and no mention of Jonathan Townsend (or Tommy Downs). My point is that in this case the ethical lines don't appear to be clear or consistent. If the set Magic Makers is offering are of poor quality, fault them as not being Ferrari, but not over incomplete knowledge of the history of the effect or the props.

Wesley James


Nice try, Wes. Gaffing coins is no longer illegal in the US, unless it is done for the purpose of fraud.

The original laws were passed to keep people from clipping gold and silver coins and making counterfeits out of them. Since 1964, when we went off the silver standard, that law has been rescinded.

Here is the text of the law:
http://www.lawforkids.org/speakup/view_question.cfm?id=407

The key word here is FRAUDULENTLY.

Frankly, I guess this is as good a reason to lie down with pigs as any.
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