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sahunhong
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I love this effect... I'm planning to purchase this, but have one question: I've just upgraded to silver coins (Walkers, YAY!!), and I was wondering if the SS accomodates a milled-down half (the one that comes with it), or any half dollar (I want to use Walkers).

Thanks in advance!
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I just tried this a regular Walking Liberty Coin.
Fits just fine, only you must remember that a walking liberty is pure silver.
This may not be an issue.

PM me if you do not know what I am talking about.
After much soul searching about a signature, I decided not to have one.

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I think I know... oreo sandwich?

Is it much less noticeable with the clad halves (if so, by how much)? And, does Digital Dissolve come with a clad Kennedy or a '64?

Thank you!
SH

P.S. BJ Bueno does this with a Walker.
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Yes, on the oreo.
Mine came with a 1971 half.

There is a difference, though only slight with the walking liberty.

I did not know that BJ used a Walker.
After much soul searching about a signature, I decided not to have one.

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But then... I'm still concerned.. when you do the thumb display won't they notice?!?
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Will anyone notice? I do not know.
At any rate, this is a wonderful effect, you should experiment with both halves and see.

Good Luck.
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Why not just buy a unmilled walker? it cost merely 5 dollars
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I HAVE walkers.. the part I haven't purchased yet is Digital Dissolve.

SH
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My DD came with neither a clad Kennedy nor a '64 actually. Mine came with a '69, which was from a period of years where Kennedys were made of about 40% silver. The silver content near the faces are about 80% so they are close to the appearance of a true silver coin. The copper content increases as you get to the center, but there is never any copper color visible as you would see with a clad coin. In any case, I replaced mine with a normal Walker because I like the look better. Perfect fit.

I've found that the "oreo" issue isn't really ever a problem. The proper angle for the trick is slightly above, so the edges don't get seen very easily. And even while you do the formal display, the eye is more attracted to the brilliant silver than it is to whatever is on the edge.
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TY Pathian.

SH
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I have found that using the Walker actually hides the SS better than the Kennedy it came with.
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Hi,

I use it with a Walker - mine came with clad Kennedy.

The ORIGINAL has a much nicer finish to the SS.

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You should also note the discussion on

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&224

before buying DD.


Kyf
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Kyf,
Am I mistaken, or have you purchased Digital Dissolve from Theory 11?
Thanks for your time.

Jim.
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Hi Jimmyj,

Yes, I was sadly naive when I saw the Digital Dissolve teaser and deluded by their hype.

When I found the effect was in fact Steve Dusheck's Copper Silver Transposition and the Gaff was created by Steve - I got pretty darn annoyed.

Anyone that releases an effect has two options - passing off something as their own (words like "invented by" and "unique" are clear definitions - Digital Dissolve is neither" - or to give due credit, get appropriate permissions and pay whatever negociated royalties with the original inventors.

Magic, sadly, is less that honourable on that score and there are thousands of people taken in by cheap and "instant" effects.

What is particularly hypocritical is the opening lines on the DVD state

"Imagine that you created a new kind of flavoured popsicle frozen dessert. Maybe it's a cross between watermelon and crab.

"Now let's theoretically assume that I invented a "popsicle cloning machine" that I used to "rip" your creation and create billions of illegal copies of your tasty dessert that I then distributed in the middle of New York. You'd be unhappy.

"Well, ripping this DVD is pretty much the same thing. And probably contributes to global warming, and/or herpes, and/or really bad feelings about yourself, you thieving communist. (Section 11.4.3 Theory 11 handbook of warnings)."

I've asked what is DIFFERENT in Digital Dissolve to Steve's Original and had nothing but waffle and weasel words.

After learning of my mistake in doing business with Theory 11 I sought out the original product and appologized to the inventor. I hope others can learn from my mistake.

Steve Dusheck is a GREAT guy, a real magical innovator and his effects deserve more than this blatent rip-off attitude, hypocracy and marketing hype.

For further comment on this see

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......tart=210

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I confess that I too bought DD.

Now, what to do?

Sell it, and so "prevent more sales to T11?"

Keep it, but pay SD for the routine as well [I actually already have the original gaff]

Both of the above?
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I think if you already haev it you got two choices

1. return it they have a 2 week policy

2. at the very least buy steve's routine.

=)
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Rutabaga, do you also already have Steve's lecture DVD? If not... a great purchase and learning experience. Smile AND you get to make contact with a great guy.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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If you already have the original gaff, why not just return it?
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On 2007-09-27 14:03, rutabaga wrote:
I confess that I too bought DD.

Now, what to do?

Sell it, and so "prevent more sales to T11?"

Keep it, but pay SD for the routine as well [I actually already have the original gaff]

Both of the above?


I threw it in the bin - very annoyed at the blatent rip-off and lack of respect.

Then tracked down the original, apologised to Steve for being taken in by the marketing hype - he replied and was very informative and helpful, bought his DVD and ORIGINAL gaff.

You know the saying - a happy customer tells one or two people - but an unhappy customer will tell everyone....

Kyf
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