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On 2007-10-29 15:35, Hart Keene wrote:
I knew they would come through...

Thank you Theory 11 for doing the right thing...


Agreed. And now if Mr. Duschek concurs with Jonatahn Bayme's post we'll be that much closer to resolving this issue.
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So far it's lip service IMO and actions WILL speak much louder!
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Well on their website it says the effect is "temporarily unavailable". From Steve's posts on the Café and what people have said he has went through with theft in the past (I.e. Lethal Tender), I don't see him giving the go ahead.

It will be interesting to see what happens if Steve is not willing to play ball.
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It's great to see such fruit come from this mighty tree. I remember when it was first planted, think they eventually cut that part of this tree down and did away with it when some lunatics went off on various tangents trying to play Perry Mason with everything all at once. But be that as it may, it's good to see that Steve Dusheck is being given the respect due him and his marvelous works.

That's what all of this was about from the very beginning, to help a wonderful guy out that has helped out and provided so much for so many for so long. I'm glad to call him a friend, and glad that some bullies aimed at taking him off in a back alley were stopped, charged with the crime and found guilty because they were. And believe it, there weren't any mistakes made here or harmless oversights, and apologies only rendered because the culprits were caught in the act.

Personally, I believed Steve without reservation from the very beginning on all of this and his truth has never wavered on the matter. Those who thought otherwise and pleaded that way here need to check the balance on their own moral compasses as to what's good and not-so-good, especially when speaking of what the word "honorable" is all about, sans any particular friendships, loyalism or admirations.

Anyway, to Josh and many here, I think we all did a wonderful job right from the start in hunting this bear, and then in bringing the supposedly mighty mountain back down to Mohammed. Now that's real magic. Smile "Bueno" job! Smile
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Perhaps T11 ran out of DD?
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Or perhaps they've run out of BS!
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On 2007-11-01 23:30, evolve629 wrote:
Perhaps T11 ran out of DD?

That's OK. I just recieved Steve Dusheck's 1982 lecture DVD which has this effect on it. He tells you how to make the gimmick and for 10 bucks you can't go wrong, that's with shipping. You get that effect (copper, silver trans.) which is worth more then the video and numerous other routines that are priceless. I can't recommend this DVD enough. I hope this helps everyone.
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Anyone hear any update on this?
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I haven't heard or seen anything new other than some pot shots at Josh on the T11 site. I sent one of them a PM giving him a brief history lesson and a suggestion of being loyal to the creators but never got a response.
Might be time to turn up the heat again aye?!?!?
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Ummmmmm, no
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Aye, turn up the heat again, it's getting cold and stale again.


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On 2007-11-05 07:11, viris wrote:
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On 2007-11-01 23:30, evolve629 wrote:
Perhaps T11 ran out of DD?

That's OK. I just recieved Steve Dusheck's 1982 lecture DVD which has this effect on it. He tells you how to make the gimmick and for 10 bucks you can't go wrong, that's with shipping. You get that effect (copper, silver trans.) which is worth more then the video and numerous other routines that are priceless. I can't recommend this DVD enough. I hope this helps everyone.


Is Mr. Dusheck well enough again to ship out his DVDs? If so, I need to contact him and get this.
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I don't know if he is well or not but I recieved my DVD in 4 days after I mailed my money. I don't know who I was e-mailing back and forth but it seemed like it was his wife. Anyway they were very professional. I still think it is {{WAY}} under priced.
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Any word on that back of the hand snap change where you can show your hand right after? Is it taught on the DVD? Also heard there's a change where Lee Asher just picks up the coin, it changes, the coin is then tabled as examinable. Is that taught too?
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Jon,
Are you saying it's okay for people to copy my trick as long as they add a new move to the trick? Having a magnet attached to your wrist with a band aid is a very old idea from the 1960s and it is not practical for working magicians.
The routine on my DVD works in the real world under all working conditions. I spend a lot of time eliminating moves from my routine and they are cluttering it up with additional moves and additional gimmicks and angle problems that are of no use to working magicians. They are even showing moves described in my instructions for the Slippery Sam Combination Coins.
If you already have one of my gimmicks you know that adding teflon tape degrades the gimmick. You also know how much better my gimmick is. When my health improves it will be available again.
By the way, the CEO claims he spent a whole day calling me and sent many E-mails that I did not answer. That is not true. It was just lip service as most of you surmised.
He may be the CEO but he has no control on resolving the issue that they copied my trick without my permission. He is not really the man in charge so even if he really did send me an E-mail his words would onlys be words.
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On 2007-11-09 10:01, Steve Dusheck wrote:
Jon,
Are you saying it's okay for people to copy my trick as long as they add a new move to the trick? Having a magnet attached to your wrist with a band aid is a very old idea from the 1960s and it is not practical for working magicians.
The routine on my DVD works in the real world under all working conditions. I spend a lot of time eliminating moves from my routine and they are cluttering it up with additional moves and additional gimmicks and angle problems that are of no use to working magicians. They are even showing moves described in my instructions for the Slippery Sam Combination Coins.
If you already have one of my gimmicks you know that adding teflon tape degrades the gimmick. You also know how much better my gimmick is. When my health improves it will be available again.
By the way, the CEO claims he spent a whole day calling me and sent many E-mails that I did not answer. That is not true. It was just lip service as most of you surmised.
He may be the CEO but he has no control on resolving the issue that they copied my trick without my permission. He is not really the man in charge so even if he really did send me an E-mail his words would onlys be words.
My wife is filling my DVD orders for me.
Steve


Steve,

Thanks for taking the time to stop by with everything you have going on. It is great news to hear that you are going to be offering YOUR gimmick again in the future. I wish you the best and a speedy recovery.

Cheers,

Jim
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On 2007-11-09 10:01, Steve Dusheck wrote:
Jon,
Are you saying it's okay for people to copy my trick as long as they add a new move to the trick? ...Steve


OUCH. That's not the sentiment I wished to communicate or even imply.

I used that particular item ( the snap coin change ), shown in the demo video, to ask if the product is accurately represented - Rhetorically to ask about the basic integrity of those involved in the project and who stand by it.

My opinions about it being unkind, disrespectful and IMHO unethical to go around showing, publishing or selling other people's ideas or works even under the pretense of offering a minor change to handling, gaff, hand position etc. are all over the café and have drawn the ire of many.

best wishes to you and yours,

Jon
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Steve thanks for posting. I hoped for the best, but feared the worst.
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Ahh some more truth comes out and more people look like liars. thank you for keeping light on this matter
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I posted on their board, we'll see if they answer.

What's the next step? They were caught, pulled the effect and then lied about trying to resolve the issue. For me, they're worse off than they began.

Steve's assertion that Bayme is CEO in name only is very telling. How do we find out who has the power and makes the decisions for them?
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Another reason why people continue to get away with it:

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Sleight_of_Hand post:
all I can say is LOL to josh barette, you talk too much


taking into account that I had not posted on that thread in weeks I can only guess that's into response from the product being pulling and some 13 year old not being able to buy it.

in response to pod, ill do some digging to see if I can find any public information on the company.
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